specialised Posted 5 March , 2011 Share Posted 5 March , 2011 Sorry, those last pictures were huge! I hope these are more useful... any ideas as to what this is exactly would be most welcome... thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Some indications of dimensions might be rather helpful. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruilooze Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Sorry not got a clue to what your relic could be, but if you could give the dimensions I am sure that one of the forum experts will be able to help Dave one of the experts has beaten me !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 There was something like this on the forum a while ago. I think it was an axle hub? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialised Posted 6 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2011 hi, thanks for the interest. dimensions are: 10cm high, 9cm 'base' diameter, 11cm 'top' diameter. there's what looks like a firing pin, in brass, on the 'base', about 1cm diameter. there's a thread on the 'top', before the lip/widest part. there's evenly spaced small holes all around the side. there's a kind of brass cylinder embedded/inserted in the top. it's heavy - not empty (someone else suggested 'axel-hub' on another forum, btw, but i think that's unlikely for a ww1 item?) i hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Not really. There were far more horse drawn carts, trailers and of course towed guns than there were motor vehicles. There were many types of lorries, buses, ambulances etc which could have sported such an item. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Can't think of an axle hub having a brass cylinder embedded in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 However, the "small holes" imply lubrication to me. Bluntly, I suggest that you clean it up and have a good look at it. It's not much use to knowledge in its present state (don't mean to sound dismissive, just practical). Cheers, Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_H Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 It is the base of a 4" Stokes (chemical mortar) round. This is the later type and this part contained the propellant charge, gases were vented through the holes. The original design from 1915 had a tubular tail with a cartridge like the 3" Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialised Posted 7 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2011 interesting, thanks guys. couple of questions spring to mind: 'contained the propellant charge' - that sounds like not such a good thing to have kicking around? should i clean it up? if so how? or bury it in the back garden? any diagrams/pictures of the 4" Stokes? thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 7 March , 2011 Share Posted 7 March , 2011 Thank you, MikH. Sorry to have misled, Spec. Venting/lubricating - opposite ends of the stick . Googling wiki will give you a rasonable photo of a 3" Stokes. 4" was up-sized version of same but mainly for different use. Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 7 March , 2011 Share Posted 7 March , 2011 interesting, thanks guys. couple of questions spring to mind: 'contained the propellant charge' - that sounds like not such a good thing to have kicking around? should i clean it up? if so how? or bury it in the back garden? any diagrams/pictures of the 4" Stokes? thanks again. As it is part of a chemical weapon, you might want to tread lightly. I would think you should turn it in, just to be safe. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_H Posted 7 March , 2011 Share Posted 7 March , 2011 This is a sectioned 4" round - picture from the IWM's collections section on their website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialised Posted 7 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2011 hi again, just looking at 4" stokes here: http://warrelics.eu/forum/collections-display/stokes-mortar-8033-3/ i can't quite see how/where it would fit? base looks wider than those in the photos... ah, just seen your picture - thanks mike, that explains perfectly. 20 year mystery solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialised Posted 7 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2011 here's a diagram... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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