No MIC ?

[MACRAE]

I bought a death plaque today named to Alexander Smail, Only 1 Alexander Smail on CWGC

Name: SMAIL

Initials: A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Royal Defence Corps

Unit Text: 160th Protection Coy.

Date of Death: 21/02/1917

Service No: 36157

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: In West part.

Cemetery: WOLSINGHAM (SS. MARY AND STEPHEN) CHURCHYARD

Cant find a MIC for him is this the norm for RDC .and would he have been entitled to medals and cause of death , air raid ? accident ?.

Dan

[johndavidswarbrick]

As far as I am aware only those soldiers who served in an active theatre of war were entitled to the 1914 /1915 Star, and Victory medals - it was possible to be eligible for the British War medal if the soldier had served abroad in a non-active theatre - eg India. With no entitlement to medals there would be no MIC. The only other possibility for an MIC that immediately comes to mind would be for a soldier who was entitled to the Territorial Efficiency Medal.

However, the one thing that I have learnt in my researches is that there are always exceptions!

Dave Swarbrick

[azureus]

hi according to sdgw

Name: Andrew Smail

Birth Place: Edinburgh

Residence: Edinburgh

Death Date: 21 Feb 1917

Death Location: Home

Enlistment Location: Edinburgh

Rank: Private

Regiment: Royal Defence Corps

Number: 36157

Type of Casualty: Died

Theatre of War: Home

appears he didnt serve abroad

regards Dave

[MACRAE]

Dave

Wrong Smail this guy is Alexander not Andrew .

Dan

[MACRAE]

Other odd thing is they both died same day same year same name this is rather spooky , the plaque I have is Alexander and the other Smail is Andrew some one please tell me what I am missing .

Dan

Other odd thing is they both died same day same year same name this is rather spooky , the plaque I have is Alexander and the other Smail is Andrew some one please tell me what I am missing .I am starting to think this is the same man why the dif name is odd.

Dan

[David Porter]

Your CWGC entry is for Andrew Smail. How about this chap?

Name: SMAIL

Initials: A B

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers

Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.

Date of Death: 25/11/1915

Service No: 6474

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: D. IX. 2.

Cemetery: PIETA MILITARY CEMETERY

Name: Alexander Brotherstone SMAIL

Rank: PRIVATE

Initials: A B

Birthplace: Galashiels, Selkirk

Residence: Galashiels, Selkirk

Enlisted: Galashiels, Selkirk

Regiment, Corps etc.: King's Own Scottish Borderers

Battalion etc.: 1/4th Battalion.

4.8.14 Galashiels: South Scottish Bde. Lowland Div. To Cambusbarron, near Stirling. 11.5.15 formation became 155th Bde. 52nd Div. 24.5.15 sailed from Liverpool. 4.6.15 arrived Alexandria. 14.6.15 to Gallipoli. 8.1.16 to Mudros. 31.1.16 Alexandria. 17.4.18 arrived Marseilles. 11.11.18 155th Bde. 52nd Div. Belgium; Sirault; N.W. Mons.

Number: 6474

Date died: 25 November 1915

How died: Died

Theatre of war: Dardanelles

And there is a medal card:

Medal card of Smail, Alexander B

Corps Regiment No Rank

King's Own Scottish Borderers 6474 Private

WO 372/18

[Esskay]

Can confirm that the GRO Army War Deaths - other ranks 1914-1921 has this KOSB man listed only as Alexander - with no middle initial - there is no other Alexander listed - so he certainly seems likely

Cheers

Sue

[MACRAE]

Can confirm that the GRO Army War Deaths - other ranks 1914-1921 has this KOSB man listed only as Alexander - with no middle initial - there is no other Alexander listed - so he certainly seems likely

Cheers

Sue

Thanks for the help will put it in my swaps box of no intrest to myself.

Dan