Any one recognise the uniforms?

[kenmorrison]

I'm trying to identify the location of the attached photo which appears to be the aftermath of a War Memorial dedication.

Any one recognise the uniforms of the two men in the bottom left?

Although there is a Scottish Flag in the bunting on the left, I'm not sure that this is in the UK

Any help would be welcome.

Ken

ps the full image is at http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic5913.html

[Chris Foster]

Ken, on the larger photo, to the the left of the memorial is a shop window with some writing upon it. Do you know what's written ?

Regards

Chris

[Staffsyeoman]

I think they're policemen of some sort? Plus there's a Boy Scout in the foreground.

[Chris Foster]

I think they're policemen of some sort?

And what look like torrie's on their caps

[FROGSMILE]

I'm trying to identify the location of the attached photo which appears to be the aftermath of a War Memorial dedication.

Any one recognise the uniforms of the two men in the bottom left?

Although there is a Scottish Flag in the bunting on the left, I'm not sure that this is in the UK

Any help would be welcome.

Ken

ps the full image is at http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic5913.html

I think it might be the Irish Free State.

[7t2ndswinger]

I think they're policemen of some sort? Plus there's a Boy Scout in the foreground.

And a little dog with really long ears.

[kenmorrison]

Ken, on the larger photo, to the the left of the memorial is a shop window with some writing upon it. Do you know what's written ?

Regards

Chris

Above the shop front it reads "Ladies and Gentlemens Outfitters" but the other text is unreadable.

I have consulted a historical clothing expert and it was her opinion that if this scene is in the UK the clothing styles would indicate a date before WW1 - hence my question about the location.

The flag on the next section of bunting might be Canadian Red ensign but ?????

As to the men in uniform being policemen, I wondered about that. In fact it bothers me that there is a lack of uniforms in the crowd for a War Memorial dedication.

Ken

p.s. why the Irish Free State? and what's a torrie?

[centurion]

I think it might be the Irish Free State.

With a Union jack hanging from one of the lamp posts (in the full sized photo) - never!

[JulianB]

Scotland - Scottish policemen and a Scottish flag !

[JulianB]

whoops I just saw where your original posting came from,

but I notice a celtic cross in the enlarged photograph too !

[kenmorrison]

whoops I just saw where your original posting came from,

but I notice a celtic cross in the enlarged photograph too !

Julian - no worries. That was my thinking too, but I originally posted the photo on the Scottish War Memorials Project site and the people there are usually pretty good at identifying War Memorials in Scotland - but no luck.

I was hoping that the distinctive "button" (or what ever it is) on the caps of the uniformed men might be identifiable to a particular Regiment.

Thanks anyway (and to everyone else who has replied)

Ken

[centurion]

I'd wondered about the date too - it looking more Edwardian than post war. Perhaps the Celtic Cross is a bit of a red herring and its not a war memorial. Perhaps the scene is something like the G V coronation celebrations?

[Chris Foster]

what's a torrie?

Ken, its the liitle pom pom usually found on a Glengarry or a Tam 'O' Shanter . I'm not saying they are torrie's they jusy reminded me of them .

Any chance of posting a larger full version of the image ?

Regards

Chris

[centurion]

But it is likely to be later than Jan 1908 as there were no scout troops in Scotland before then!

[Chris Foster]

A larger version of the image, on the behalf of Ken .

[Chris Foster]

Crop 1

Crop 2

Crop 3

[badjez]

Have you considered submitting the photo to the Police Insignia Collectors Association for them to try and identify the 'policemen'. I'm not a member but have friend who is if you are ok with me copying the picture to him.

Stephen.

[kenmorrison]

Have you considered submitting the photo to the Police Insignia Collectors Association for them to try and identify the 'policemen'. I'm not a member but have friend who is if you are ok with me copying the picture to him.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen, please do.

Ken

[badjez]

Ken,

Photos forwarded. I'll let you know if I hear anything back.

Stephen.

[gnr.ktrha]

I wonder if it is maybe a photo taken at the time of a Royal Visit or to celebrate the Coronation in 1911. The crowd seem well dressed and generally very happy looking, so does not seem to be a group at an unveiling of a War Memorial.

[robins2]

borrowed this card from friend (police collector UK)

Unknown Police on parade, note top of hats, similar to your post

[centurion]

I wonder if it is maybe a photo taken at the time of a Royal Visit or to celebrate the Coronation in 1911. The crowd seem well dressed and generally very happy looking, so does not seem to be a group at an unveiling of a War Memorial.

As I've already suggested in post 12!

[badjez]

Ken,

Your picture will appear in the Police Memorabilia Collectors Club magazine on 3rd December. Somebody there might recognise the uniform if it is indeed Police.

Stephen.

[C.TIERNEY.]

Just some observations,

Judging by the women's fashions I'd reckon that photograph was taken pre-1918, if that is any help.

Also there seems to be a distinct lack of electricity poles/wires which were common by 1918, There only seems to be wires going to the chimney of the 'domed' building.

If it was a post WW1 commeration event I'd expect to see a lot of civvies wearing medals.

Then again I could be completely wrong.

Regards

C.T.

[malch]

Perhaps a Boer War memorial ?

The house under construction is being made of a light-coloured sandstone - just an observation.

M