British Cavalry Saw?

[133.R]

A friend says it would be british. What are your opinions? Cavalry? British or french?

I can find absolutly no markings.

Best regards

133.R

[centurion]

It looks very like the British WW2 folding saw carried in some tanks, The handles and handle rings are identical but the teeth are slightly different.

[133.R]

I didnt need the saw if is really ww2 . Need anybody this saw?

[Gunner Bailey]

It is very smilar to the standard british folding 'trench saw', but looks shorter. The case is different too. It's a variant that I have not seen. Most of the WW1 saws I have owned or seen have the date and makers name on one of the brass rings. WW2 saws are often un-named, but can be dated, sometimes on the last steel part before the brass ring.

It probably needs an expert on webbing to identify the case.

John

[centurion]

See

http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/equipment-field-gear/95497d1270440266t-british-ww2-folding-saw-111.jpg

http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/equipment-field-gear/116344d1277081536t-british-ww2-folding-saw-pioneer-saw.jpg

These saws were made by a firm called Francis Wood who had been in business since 1903 so its possible they were supplying them in WW1 as well but the ones shown were ordered in 1943. As I said the teeth are slightly different

see also

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gilai.com/images/items/875_big.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gilai.com/product_728/Military-Farrers-Patent-Folding-Saw-by-Francis-Wood&usg=__7x2KL5slopfyFFE6AcMfwPd2v4k=&h=625&w=800&sz=163&hl=en&start=25&zoom=0&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=9xgolH0D4ZdCGM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522folding%2Bsaw%2522%26start%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

You appear to have some handles missing

[centurion]

It would appear that the same firm supplied similar saws in 1916 as 'trench saws'

http://www.dbmilitaria.co.uk/shop/photos/10231b.jpg

[centurion]

Nothing new under the sun! This has been on the forum before

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15995&view=findpost&p=121984

Its seems that the saw in question could be of any time from 1907 to the present! but isn't a cavalry saw.

[Gunner Bailey]

See

http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/equipment-field-gear/95497d1270440266t-british-ww2-folding-saw-111.jpg

http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/equipment-field-gear/116344d1277081536t-british-ww2-folding-saw-pioneer-saw.jpg

These saws were made by a firm called Francis Wood who had been in business since 1903 so its possible they were supplying them in WW1 as well but the ones shown were ordered in 1943. As I said the teeth are slightly different

see also

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gilai.com/images/items/875_big.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gilai.com/product_728/Military-Farrers-Patent-Folding-Saw-by-Francis-Wood&usg=__7x2KL5slopfyFFE6AcMfwPd2v4k=&h=625&w=800&sz=163&hl=en&start=25&zoom=0&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=9xgolH0D4ZdCGM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522folding%2Bsaw%2522%26start%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

You appear to have some handles missing

Centurion

The saw in your 2nd link is the classic WW1/WW2 version with the most typical case. These cases are sometimes dated and manufacturer stamped. I had one earlier this year that was WW1 dated on the saw and the case.

The 3rd link is the same style saw in the later WW2 case, which was webbing and not as strong as the leather type. I've not tracked makers names but I think I've never seen the same maker twice so there must have been a few of them.

I think the case is the way the original post exampe will be dated.

John