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[rhaylor]

Hi

on war graves john adam cribb did in 1918 age 28 , sevice no , 19151 , bedfordshire regiment.

on the 1901 census there is a john age 10 ,born , clapham , parents william cribb , mother , harriett.

is there somewhere i can look if the 2 johns are the same.

i hope that make scense ?

robin.

[kenf48]

John Adam Cribb according to the CWGC site died at Home, in other words in the UK. This means if you can find out where he died you will be able to get his death certificate

Free BMD lists a John Cribb age 28 who died in the last quarter of 1918 in the registration district of Ampthill Index 3b 713 Ampthill is in Bedfordshire. The CWGC entry shows he was based at the depot for the Bedfordshire Regiment, or a barracks close to the registration district, though you need an expert on the Bedfords, I'm not.

Soldiers Died in the Great War (SDGW) lists him as 'died' this usually means he died as the result of sickness or accident. SDGW also shows he was born in Clapham and lived and enlisted in Battersea. When a soldier died at 'home' the next of kin could choose where he was interred, and they chose to bring him home.

The CWGC also gives his wife's name and BMD lists a marriage for a John A Cribb in Wandsworth in the 3rd Quarter of 1910 1d 1481 his wife is listed as Esther E. the marriage certificate will confirm his parents (usually witnesses) (and birth date). The John Cribb born in the third quarter of 1890 was registered in Wandsworth 1d 683.

Suggest they are the same man but the only way to prove beyond doubt is to obtain the certificates.

There is a medal card for him on Ancestry that shows he went to France with the 7th Bn of the Bedfords and entered theatre on 26 July 1915. The card shows 'D of W' or Died of wounds. The card identifies him as a volunteer, but why the Bedfords? I don't know.

Ken

[rhaylor]

John Adam Cribb according to the CWGC site died at Home, in other words in the UK. This means if you can find out where he died you will be able to get his death certificate

Free BMD lists a John Cribb age 28 who died in the last quarter of 1918 in the registration district of Ampthill Index 3b 713 Ampthill is in Bedfordshire. The CWGC entry shows he was based at the depot for the Bedfordshire Regiment, or a barracks close to the registration district, though you need an expert on the Bedfords, I'm not.

Soldiers Died in the Great War (SDGW) lists him as 'died' this usually means he died as the result of sickness or accident. SDGW also shows he was born in Clapham and lived and enlisted in Battersea. When a soldier died at 'home' the next of kin could choose where he was interred, and they chose to bring him home.

The CWGC also gives his wife's name and BMD lists a marriage for a John A Cribb in Wandsworth in the 3rd Quarter of 1910 1d 1481 his wife is listed as Esther E. the marriage certificate will confirm his parents (usually witnesses) (and birth date). The John Cribb born in the third quarter of 1890 was registered in Wandsworth 1d 683.

Suggest they are the same man but the only way to prove beyond doubt is to obtain the certificates.

There is a medal card for him on Ancestry that shows he went to France with the 7th Bn of the Bedfords and entered theatre on 26 July 1915. The card shows 'D of W' or Died of wounds. The card identifies him as a volunteer, but why the Bedfords? I don't know.

Ken

Good Morning Ken.

Sorry i have not replied sooner , i have no PC at home.

I can use library computer , i could not login ( ? )a message always came up saying " database not found ".

On behalf of my friend , many thanks for your help.

robin.

[Stebie9173]

The Soldiers Died entry shows that he was part of the 4th Battalion who served overseas in the Royal Naval Division.

See:

http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/4thbn/4thbattalion.html

and

http://www.1914-1918.net/63div.htm

As to the actual date of his fatal wounding in France, it is likely that local newspapers of 1918 would be his best bet.

The two different battalions suggests he was transferred from the 7th at some point - possibly after being wounded?

EDIT: He is listed as 19151 Lance-Corporal "Cobb" in the Casualty Lists for the battalion on the First Day of the Somme, 1-7-1916 (as a member of "D" Company)

See:

http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/7thbn/7thbtn1916appendices.html

The Times Casualty Lists show him correctly as Cribb, so the above entry may have been a mis-transcription from the War Diary, or the War Diary itself was in error.

Steve.

[rhaylor]

Good Morning Steve , Ken.

Many Thanks for all your information , my friend is very grateful.

she has just started her research , john is her Grandfathers brother and had no knowledge whatsoever.

Best Regards.

robin.

[kenf48]

Quick thought if using a library computer you can view the medal card on the library edition of ancestry for free - if not already a user

Good luck

Ken

[rhaylor]

Quick thought if using a library computer you can view the medal card on the library edition of ancestry for free - if not already a user

Good luck

Ken

Hello Ken.

Just had a look , he is on there....Thank you.

robin.