regiment transfer

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james corcoran pte 1195 connaught rangers transferred to royal irish fusiliers 16779

any ideas why this happened

and from his cr number is it possible to give a date when he joined

he was k i a in gallipoli 1915

thanks in advance

tommy

[kenf48]

The four digit number strongly suggests it's likely he was a pre war regular in the Connaught Rangers. As he did not go to France with the 1st or 2nd Bn in 1914 it is possible he had completed his seven years with the colours and was on the reserve list, or had completed his regular army service and volunteered for the New Army and was posted to the 6th (Service) Bn of the Fusiliers. There were many reasons why soldiers transferred later in the war, e.g. retrurning from wounds but that seems unlikely here

The best place to look would be his obituary in the local newspaper which may refer to previous service.

Ken

[mhifle]

Hi,

Regimental number 1195 issued

1st & 2nd Battalions : Aug/Sept 1884

3rd Battalion : 1896

4th Battalion : pre 1899

5th Battalion : Oct 1914

6th Btatlion : 3/4 Oct 1914

If he had joined the 5th Battalion in Oct 1914 he may have been transferred to the 3rd Btatlion.

During March 1915 all recruits and men unfit for service aboard in the 5th (Service) Battalion joined the 3rd Battalion.

4 sergeants and 1 corporal who had been attested for home service with the 5th Battalion, were posted to the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale, and proceeded there on 1 Match 1915

All recruits and men unfit for service abroad with the 5th Battalion, who could not be made efficient, were ordered to be sent to Kinsale to join the 3rd Reserve Battalion. 12 March 1915

Quarter Master Sergeant Brook and 102 N.C.O.’s and men proceeded to join the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale from the 5th Battalion at Beresford Barracks, The Curragh, as medically unfit for service abroad 15 March 1915

11 NCO’s and men proceeded to join the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale 23 March 1915 4 of these NCO’s were sent to relieve the 2 Sergeants and 2 Corporals from the Expeditionary Force to be attached to the Battalion for instructional purposes

Lieutenant G B Lee (Platoon Officer), 2nd Lieutenants O H Acton, A J Kearney, G Robinson and P J McGlade with 5 Batmen arrived from 5th Battalion to be attached to 3rd Battalion by train. 29 April 1915

He may then been transferred to the 6th Royal Irish Fusiliers when medically fit

again.

Also after he was killed in action there is mention of Connaught Rangers transferred to the Royal Irish Fusiliers from the 5th Battalion

Two drafts made up from 375 NCO’s and men from the Connaught Rangers who had been attached to the Inniskilling Fusiliers and the Royal Irish Fusiliers, rejoined the 5th Battalion as these men wanted to return to Connaught Rangers and the Brigadier General commanding the 31st Brigade consented. All these men were Connaught Rangers from the 3rd or 4th Battalions, most had taken part in action in Serbia on 7 & 8 Dec. 19 Dec 1915

Regards Mark

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thanks to Ken and Mark for your help

tommy

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Hi,

Regimental number 1195 issued

1st & 2nd Battalions : Aug/Sept 1884

3rd Battalion : 1896

4th Battalion : pre 1899

5th Battalion : Oct 1914

6th Btatlion : 3/4 Oct 1914

If he had joined the 5th Battalion in Oct 1914 he may have been transferred to the 3rd Btatlion.

During March 1915 all recruits and men unfit for service aboard in the 5th (Service) Battalion joined the 3rd Battalion.

4 sergeants and 1 corporal who had been attested for home service with the 5th Battalion, were posted to the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale, and proceeded there on 1 Match 1915

All recruits and men unfit for service abroad with the 5th Battalion, who could not be made efficient, were ordered to be sent to Kinsale to join the 3rd Reserve Battalion. 12 March 1915

Quarter Master Sergeant Brook and 102 N.C.O.’s and men proceeded to join the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale from the 5th Battalion at Beresford Barracks, The Curragh, as medically unfit for service abroad 15 March 1915

11 NCO’s and men proceeded to join the 3rd Battalion at Kinsale 23 March 1915 4 of these NCO’s were sent to relieve the 2 Sergeants and 2 Corporals from the Expeditionary Force to be attached to the Battalion for instructional purposes

Lieutenant G B Lee (Platoon Officer), 2nd Lieutenants O H Acton, A J Kearney, G Robinson and P J McGlade with 5 Batmen arrived from 5th Battalion to be attached to 3rd Battalion by train. 29 April 1915

He may then been transferred to the 6th Royal Irish Fusiliers when medically fit

again.

Also after he was killed in action there is mention of Connaught Rangers transferred to the Royal Irish Fusiliers from the 5th Battalion

Two drafts made up from 375 NCO’s and men from the Connaught Rangers who had been attached to the Inniskilling Fusiliers and the Royal Irish Fusiliers, rejoined the 5th Battalion as these men wanted to return to Connaught Rangers and the Brigadier General commanding the 31st Brigade consented. All these men were Connaught Rangers from the 3rd or 4th Battalions, most had taken part in action in Serbia on 7 & 8 Dec. 19 Dec 1915

Regards Mark

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hello mark

thanks for the info on C R numbers

would you be so good as to check the following please

2405

6454

6702

connaught rangers

thank you

tommy

tommyradio@oceanfree.net

[mhifle]

Hi,

2405

1st & 2nd Bn: 1887

3rd Bn: pre July 1908

4th Bn: pre 1899

5th Bn: Oct 1914

6th Bn: Nov 1914

6454

1st & 2nd Bn: Aug 1898

3rd Bn: early July 1915

4th Bn: Jan/Feb 1916

5th Bn: Jan 1916

6th Bn: Nov/Dec 1916

6702

1st & 2nd Bn: Sept 1899

3rd Bn: 18/19 Aug 1915

4th Bn: Feb 1917

5th Bn: March/April 1916

6th Bn: Jan 1917

Regards Mark

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thank you mark

the men who had these numbers in the 1890s

were

2405 bernard hagen

6454 m cullen

6702 m cryan

from 1st battalion connaught rangers

and they were killed in action

at Zuurvlakte on 14th july 1901

Bernard was my late wifes grand uncle [thats him on the left of the photo]

thanks again

tommy