RMR Posted 4 August , 2010 Share Posted 4 August , 2010 Hi all, can anyone help with any information regarding this officer of the Herefords for the period between june and november 1917.During this period he was M.I.D. I am trying to find out what for, I have his service record but all it mentions is the LG entry for his MID 12 january 1918.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike m Posted 5 August , 2010 Share Posted 5 August , 2010 Hi, During the dates you requested, his name is mentioned in the Herefordshire Regiment war Diary on six occasions. TNA ref WO95/4626. 17-05-1917 "Lt. G.N. Berney appointed Bn. grenade Officer". 15-06-1917 "Lt. Berney proceded on leave of absence". 23-08-1917 (Appendix) mentioned as "re-inforcement". 01-11-1917 "commanding B Coy". 06-11-1917 One of six Officers killed, during the battle (Khuweilfeh) 13-02-1918 "The following Officers and O.R's "mentioned" in Sir A Murrays despatch published as supp. to London Gazette 14th Jan 1918:- Capt G N Berner (sic).deceased. There is no mention as to the deed for which he was mentioned. He is Mentioned in "Manu Forti" by Lt Col T.J.B. Hill, on page 66, refering to the 6th Nov 1917:- "It was here that Capt. G.N.Berney, with a Company of Herefords, found nine Turkish guns limbered up in a ravine ready to move back, as well as the transport of a machine gun company. He at once charged, bayonetted the personnel, captured the guns and decimated the transport". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 5 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2010 Thanks very much for your reply suvla-bay,the last section from "Manu Forti" by Lt Col T.J.B. Hill, would probably account for his MID as he was killed later that same day,could you tell me if theirs a photograph of him in "Manu Forti"? Regards Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 6 August , 2010 Share Posted 6 August , 2010 Mate, I believe he was killed during the attack on Tel Khuweilfe (just north of Beersheba) when the 158th Bde (53rd Div) which attacked at night over rough ground, during which the Infantry lost there way and a heavy fight started in the morning and over the next few days with the Turkish 19th Div. The 3rd Anzac Bn ICC (Camel Corps) was involved inthis fight and details can be found inthe Aust Offical History (pages 423-424) and map 18. A relation of the Commander of the 3Bn ICC (LtCol De Lancey-Forth) wrote a bit on this action in his book "A Fighting Colonel of the Camel Corps" by Nevill De Rouen Forth Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike m Posted 6 August , 2010 Share Posted 6 August , 2010 Here is a group photo from a local newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 6 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2010 Hi,many thanks Suvla-bay that photograph made my day,I have ordered the war diaries for the Herefords 1916-1918 and a copy of Manu Forti so all in all my research is near completion as I had the war diaries for 1915 Gallipoli campaign and his service record,MIC, and LG mentions.Thanks also to Steve for pointing me to that action, he was killed there, apparently they got lost and walked up open ground toward the Turkish lines no knowing their exact position,the Camel Corp were sheltering from the machine guns and saw it happen.All the Herefords officers there were killed and the O.R.s broke but a Camel Corp officer rallied them.Many thanks to all Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike m Posted 6 August , 2010 Share Posted 6 August , 2010 Hi,many thanks Suvla-bay that photograph made my day,I have ordered the war diaries for the Herefords 1916-1918 and a copy of Manu Forti so all in all my research is near completion as I had the war diaries for 1915 Gallipoli campaign and his service record,MIC, and LG mentions.Thanks also to Steve for pointing me to that action, he was killed there, apparently they got lost and walked up open ground toward the Turkish lines no knowing their exact position,the Camel Corp were sheltering from the machine guns and saw it happen.All the Herefords officers there were killed and the O.R.s broke but a Camel Corp officer rallied them.Many thanks to all Roger I have also found an obituary from 1917:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 6 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2010 I have also found an obituary from 1917:- Once again many thanks Suvla-bay I have been searching out information on this officer since February and in a single day you have provided 3 key pieces.Regards Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dave Posted 7 August , 2010 Share Posted 7 August , 2010 Hello RMR, what do you intend to do with the information on Capt Berney? Is it for a project, or are you chasing it for family reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 7 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 7 August , 2010 Hi Captain Dave,it's one of my three retirement projects,why do you have information? Regards Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dave Posted 8 August , 2010 Share Posted 8 August , 2010 Hello again, I noted that he is intered in the Beersheeba CWWG Cemetary. I'm likely to be traveling close to there in the next few weeks and would be happy to get a photo of the grave if that is of any use to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 8 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 8 August , 2010 Hello again, I noted that he is intered in the Beersheeba CWWG Cemetary. I'm likely to be traveling close to there in the next few weeks and would be happy to get a photo of the grave if that is of any use to you. Hi that would be great if you could do so and would be much appreciated.Regards Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dave Posted 20 August , 2010 Share Posted 20 August , 2010 The grave The cemetary. It was close to 43 degrees in there today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMR Posted 20 August , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2010 The grave The cemetary. It was close to 43 degrees in there today! Hi Capt Dave excellent photo's thanks very much.Regards Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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