NeilEvans Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Quite a big ask this one. I've been compiling a Telford District Roll of Honour for a while now. The research has presented 1683 names from various conflicts. Now only 35 men remain unidentified. I can find many of them on the census records. However it's their death i'm interested in. Can you help find these men? Neil Name/Location Bright, W. Hadley Candlin, A.R. Little Dawley Churm, Harry. Wellington Cox, John. Coalport Dale, R. Madeley (Don't Bother. Tried for 4 years to identify him with no luck) Davis, R. Ironbridge Deakin, A. Ketley Edgerton, E. Dawley Edwards, Sidney. Lawley Evans, H.R. Dawley Goodhall, W. Madeley Harris, H.J. Ketley Hunt, R.E. Ketley Jarvis, W. Ironbridge Jones, A. Wrockwardine Wood (Annette, 6th Shropshires) Jones, J. Dawley Jones, S.W. Wellington Leonard, J. Wrockwardine Wood Mason, Thomas. Lawley Morris, Richard. St. Georges Nicholls, Ambrose. Lilleshall Phillips, W. Ketley Postam, T.S. Wrockwardine Wood Price, H. Hadley (possibly L. Price KevinW4) Rickards, C. Ironbridge Rogers, Samuel. St. Georges Rowley, E. Hadley Shuker, D.E. Wellington Simpson, Joseph. St. Georges Speake, H. Ironbridge Spencer, T. Wellington Teece, T.E. Wrockwardine Wood Thomas, A. Wellington Thomas, B.I. Wellington Wright, J. Coalbrookdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Hi Neil. Am sure you have considered THIS man for Candlin, A.R. Little Dawley Enlisted Wellington Salop born Horsehay, Dawley, Salop Perhaps a brother's name on Memorial by mistake? Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Thomas Teece Born Dawley Salop, enlisted Wellington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Name: JONES Initials: A T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: King's Shropshire Light Infantry Unit Text: 7th Bn. Age: 26 Date of Death: 07/10/1918 Service No: 11416 Additional information: Son of Mr. E. Jones, of 26, Wrockwardine, Wellington, Salop. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. G. 4A. Cemetery: MONT HUON MILITARY CEMETERY, LE TREPORT; possibly a relative or misread letter? Name: PRICE Initials: L Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Bombardier Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery Unit Text: 7th Bty. Age: 25 Date of Death: 07/10/1918 Service No: 30475 Additional information: Son of the late Albert and Martha Price. Native of Hadley, Salop. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: III. A. 35. Cemetery: HARINGHE (BANDAGHEM) MILITARY CEMETERY No sign of any PostaMs, but Name: POSTANS, SIDNEY THOMAS Initials: S T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Stoker 1st Class Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. "Indefatigable." Age: 24 Date of Death: 31/05/1916 Service No: K/6146 Additional information: Son of Henry Roger Postans, of 53, Rana Rd., Greethill, Tyseley, Birmingham. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 16. Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL, or Name: POSTON Initials: S Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Regimental Serjeant Major Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 22/03/1918 Service No: 9308 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Special Memorial 23. Cemetery: DERNANCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION if there is any connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 22 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Thanks Kevin, Mike. Mike, The T. Teece you have i've found on 2 memorials, his brother died of wounds. However, i think the census records show another T.Teece in Wrockwardine Wood. The Candlin you have is on the same memorial as A.R Candlin. Kevin, I had found the same chap as you. However in modern Telford there is Wrockwardine Wood and just on the outskirts of Telford is a village called Wrockwardine. Both are around 6-7 miles apart. The Jones we've found, to my knowledge, has no connection with Wrockwardine Wood. Nice and confusing Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 22 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Kevin, You might be onto something there. He's not on Hadley memorial, or any others. Another man on the memorial, from London, was listed under his wifes initials. The memorial was erected in 1929. Thank you. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Neil, on Mapping Our Anzacs, I found this man. Haven't found him on CWGC, and he only seems to have 3 pages of service record? Worth a look Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 22 June , 2010 Share Posted 22 June , 2010 I assume you are referring to L Price only on Post #6? Have also this: Name: CHURM, HARRY Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment) Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn. Age: 39 Date of Death: 31/07/1917 Service No: 201457 Additional information: Son of the late James Churm, of Whitmore Reans, Wolverhampton. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 12. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL but does it link in anyway to your quest? So you want an A Jones from Wrockwardine Wood which is not the A Jones from Wrockwardine, right? They don't happen to roost in trees at night do they, a bit too little of anything else to do at night it seems!!! One Jones family in the right place, but not an "A" Jones Name: JONES, WILLIAM HOPE Initials: W H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Serjeant Regiment/Service: Monmouthshire Regiment Unit Text: 3rd Bn. Age: 25 Date of Death: 20/12/1915 Service No: 2286 Additional information: Son of James and Ellen Jones, of Wrockwardine Wood, Salop. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. L. 4A. Cemetery: WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY the other Name: JONES, JOSEPH CHARLES Initials: J C Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers Unit Text: 4th Bn. Age: 18 Date of Death: 27/08/1918 Service No: 91478 Additional information: Son of William and Louisa Jones, of Mafeking Terrace, Wrockwardine Wood, Oakengates, Salop. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 155. Cemetery: CANTERBURY CEMETERY, Kent so do you know whether either of these also had an "A" Jones, or is there a third Jones family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 22 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2010 Mike, Could be although i think he's a Robert Hunt born 1873, living Ketley 1901. Kevin, You're right it is Post 6, i was on about. Thank you. Wrockwardine Wood it is, not Wrockwardine. We have the same problem with a Donnington Wood and 2 Donnington's. Harry Churm. I'll have a look on. Right, the chap i think it is was born in 1876 in Hadley. 1901 census shows him living in Wellington with his parents Enoch and Sarah Churm. Your chap has the right age but, his father is a James. William Hope Jones and Joseph Charles Jones. No go i'm affraid. Both are on the memorial at Wrockwardine Wood. Postam, T.S. I've no idea on this one. I gave it alot of attention a while back and failed. Thanks, Mike, Kevin Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Another 2 possibles? Neil, you may have used this site before, but if not, there may ideas/contacts here. CuriousFox you can also buy old maps from the site HERE Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 W Bright CWGC This man's service record survives, and is on Ancestry Pte 3544, and 31067. Address on attestation Clun Salop married to Kate. Medals sent to Kate Louisa Pugh, formerly Bright, Stanage. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Hi Neil There are two possibilities for Candlin but I do not think either died during the war, not unless died after being discharged & not recorded by CWGC or may have died after cut off point ? anyway worth a look at. 13356 Pte. Candlin, Arthur, resided 29 The Pottery, Dawley. 8/K.S.L.I. Trans. to R. Innis. F. 44595. Info. from Absent Voters Lists 1918 & M.I.C. 17948 Pte. Candlin, Alfred Edwin (E not R ?) resided 19 Buildwas Rd., Coalbrookdale. 6th & 2/K.S.L.I. Wounded 1916 x 2. Info. from Victory/British War Medal Roll, Absent Voters Lists 1918 & Wellington & Shrewsbury Journal 25-03-16 (with 6th Batt.) + 15-06-16 . Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Neil have you looked at this chap 6332 Pte. Evans, Harry, Born Dawley (Little Dawley) Enlisted Shrewsbury Land in F/F 21/12/14. 2nd + 7/K.S.L.I. D. of W. 05/05/17 aged 26. Son of John Evans, of 35, King St., Dawley. Buried in Fauboug D'Amiens Cemetery, Arras (IV. G. 15). Info. from 1914-15 Star Medal Roll (which records K. in A. 04-05-17), Soldiers Died & C.W.G.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 Not likely but 200400 Pte. Jones, Alfred William, Donnington Wood, Shrops. (1 Hopton Road, Trench, Wrockwardine Wd.) Enlisted Wellington. Also had K.S.L.I. No. 1873. 1/4/K.S.L.I. K. in A. 26/03/18. His name is on the Arras Memorial. Info. from Info. from Absent Voters Lists 1918, M.I.C., C.W.G.C. & Soldiers Died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 23 June , 2010 Share Posted 23 June , 2010 7274 Pte. Leonord, James, (Wrockwardine Wood) Landed in F/F 10/09/14 with 1/K.S.L.I. Also served in 7th Batt. Discharged no date given. Info. from 1914 Star Medal Roll. Recorded in Died in Wrekin Roll of Honour, I sadly do not have a copy of the Wrekin Roll of Honour, many years ago when I first started my reseach a chap sent me a copy of it which he found in a skip, after taking a note of all K.S.L.I. men recorded in it I returned it but in those days I did not keep a record of people who helped me out. Any way I have no date of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 24 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 24 June , 2010 Annette, Thanks for your help. Candlin. I think you have the right chap in Arthur, but there's no trace of his death. It looks like A.E Candlin died in 1973. Evans, H. Unfortunately the H. Evans you found is also on the memorial. There is a remote possibility it might have been the same man? Jones, A.W. I think you've cracked it Annette He's on no other local memorial and Trench is in the Parish of Wrockwardine Wood. Thank You Leonard, J That's interesting. I have the original roll, but he's not listed in it! 1911 Census shows two James Leonards serving overseas (Military) one born, 1887, the other 1879. I have no idea if any of them were in the Shropshires. I don't have access. thanks for your help Annette, Regards Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandy hall Posted 24 June , 2010 Share Posted 24 June , 2010 James born 1887 born Belfast Ireland James born 1879 born Bristol Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 24 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 24 June , 2010 Cheers Mandy. Did it show their regiments? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 28 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 28 June , 2010 Just bumping this to see if any more can be located. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandy hall Posted 29 June , 2010 Share Posted 29 June , 2010 sorry only just noticed your question James Leonard born 1887 is at Fort William Calcutta I think the regiment is 2nd Battalion The Rifles Brigade very difficult to read has been stamped on form not written. James Leonard born 1879 is at Cantonments next word transcribed by FMP as P'stroom 12th Royal Lancers. Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawley Jockey Posted 3 July , 2010 Share Posted 3 July , 2010 Hi Neil Just got back from holiday and saw your post, All the Dawley lads you have listed I have details on. Just give me a while to sort them out but you will find Candlin on the Pembrooke Dock memorial and also off the top of my head I think one of the Teece's is mentioned on the Stockport memorial but I will check this out for you. Are you going to the South Staffs pals meeting on Tuesday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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