Local Church Memorial

[roughdiamond]

Hi folks

In my local Church in the village of Chapelhall, there is a memorial listing 26 "Adherents and Friends of this Church" including my Gt Gt Uncle John Barton who died in WW1. Trawling through CWGC I managed to find 9 definite entries matching the list, 6 possibles and the other 11 I'm afraid I can't narrow down.

Could someone with a SDGW disc please have a look at the list of the men below from the CWGC site to see if there is any mention of Chapelhall, Gartness, Calderbank or Airdrie on their entries? Airdrie is the nearby town where they'd likely have enlisted.

Thomas Hailstones Pte S/16112 7th Camerons KIA 03/08/17.

Edward Hyslop L/Cpl 17389 1st Royal Scots Fusiliers KIA 25/09/15.

JS Jack Gnr 201969 179 Btn RFA KIA 01/09/18 (Memorial has James S Jack)

Robert Scott McDonald S/14364 L/Cpl 2nd A&SH attd Leinster Regt Died 12/12/18 (Memorial has Robert S MacDonald).

W C McEwan 651044 Gnr 315th Bde RFA KIA 21/10/17 (Memorial has William C McEwan).

David Russell 7102 Bdr 94th Bde RFA KIA 21/09/17.

Thanks

Sam

[deano]

Hi Sam, here with SDGW -

Hailstones - born Newmonkland, enlisted Airdrie, resided Chapelhall. KIA.

Hyslop - born Girvan, enlisted Hamilton, resided Chapelhall. KIA.

James Sharp Jack - enlisted/resided Dundee. Formerly 95265 RGA. Died.

McDonald - born Bellshill, enlisted Glasgow, resided Airdrie. KIA.

William Craig McEwan - born Glasgow, enlisted Cathcart. KIA.

Russell - born Cambusnethan, enlisted Shotts. KIA.

Hope this helps Sam,

regards

Dean.

[daggers]

Sam

Have you tried Geoff's Wonderful Search Engine?

http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search1421.php

He asks for a donation towards the Help for Heroes campaign. Once done you will have access to a means of searching the CWGC entries by a single word, a name, a regiment , a dateetc etc.

Working from a minimum entry such as your church location might pay dividends.

D

[roughdiamond]

Thanks Dean

Looks like Hailstones, Hyslop and McDonald are in, Russell may still be possible as Chapelhall was part of Shotts parish at that time, Jack and McEwan I'll have to check further.

daggers

For Jack, McEwan and the other 11, I've searched the CWGC site by name and there isn't a possible match for any of them due to the lack of NOK's address or the fact it's different from the casualties, the name is all I have to go on, so Geoffs engine I'm afraid wouldn't be of any benefit.

Sam

[Lost in Tilloy]

Hi Sam

I wonder if this could be the William McEwan you are looking for Pte S/16113, 7th QOCH, DOW 28/05/1916:

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...?casualty=60633

I think CWGC wrongly has him as Cox William McEwan instead of William Cox McEwan.

His service records exist on ancestry altough they are vert faded and damaged. His name is given as William McEwan and his personal effects were sent to Mrs Betsy McEwan of Weirs Land, Chapelhall, Lanarkshire.

The Scottish National War Memorial has him as Willaim McEwan born in Bothwell. A will exists as the Scottish National Archives under ref SC70/8/267/48.

Regards

LIT

[Lost in Tilloy]

Also could this be the James Jack you are after?

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=855271

[Rob Bulloch]

7102 Bmdr David Russell RFA Born Cambusnethan enlisted and resided in Shotts Son of Mrs Joseph McIndoe 161 Shotts Kirk Road. Shotts.

Rob.

[KevinBattle]

Geoffs Search Engine produces 17 Names with a Chapelhall address

001 ADDIE T 34437 9TH BN 29/10/1916 YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT

002 ADDIE T S/8833 7TH BN 28/09/1918 SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS

003 ANDREWS JC 292723 7TH BN 19/09/1917 BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)

004 FINDLAY J 16713 6TH BN 09/04/1917 KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS

005 HENDERSON J 1624 1ST/4TH BN 16/07/1916 YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT

006 JACK J 11096 2ND BN 18/05/1915 SCOTS GUARDS

007 LANDLES J 203534 1ST/6TH BN 29/07/1918 BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)

008 MACKENZIE J 3023 2ND LOWLAND FIELD COY 04/06/1915 ROYAL ENGINEERS

009 MALCOLM A 16996 C COY 13TH BN 11/05/1916 ROYAL SCOTS

010 MCCULLOCH R S/23478 D COY 1ST BN 29/10/1918 GORDON HIGHLANDERS

011 MCEWAN CW 16113 7TH BN 28/05/1916 CAMERON HIGHLANDERS

012 MCGRADY M 13619 6TH BN 16/03/1916 KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS

013 MCLEAN RL 33103 6TH BN 16/12/1917 KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS

014 MILLAR G S/14500 2ND BN 06/05/1915 CAMERON HIGHLANDERS

015 NAISMITH PW 2330 2ND/2ND LOWLAND FIELD COY 15/08/1915 ROYAL ENGINEERS

016 SMITH JP S/3177 8TH BN 11/10/1915 SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS

017 WILSON C 1005 10TH BN 02/12/1914 ROYAL SCOTS

Maybe some of those you haven't named are there, to save you looking further?

Your John Barton was the only Garness entry.

[roughdiamond]

LIT

Thanks for those 2, I now realise how I missed James Jack, I had been searching for J S, then took off the S, I just had a look again and because I didn't remove the space after the J, the search engine was still looking for a 2nd name/initial.

Rob

Still unsure About Russell, Shotts Kirk, is a well known, very old church which can be seen from the M8 motorway between Glasgow and Edinburgh, it's not actually in Shotts , it's on the edge of the village of Salsburgh only 4 miles from Chapelhall, Shotts itself is 3 miles in the opposite direction from the Kirk, it'll have to be a don't know for now.

Kevin

Thanks for that list, of those 17, only 10 appear on the Church memorial, but it was for "Adherants and Friends" of this particular Church of Scotland so it sadly wouldn't list Roman Catholics or non adherents, 2 of those 10 were Jack and McEwan , the rest I had.

About 10 years ago a small War memorial was set up in Chapelhall, up until that time we didn't have one, on it are only listed the dead of WW2, I can only assume those names from WW1 were not included as they only represented the members of the Church of Scotland rather than the whole community.

I'll take those names and the other 7 you've supplied and keep digging, if I can get enough of a case, I may approach the community council with a proposition to add the WW1 names to the Memorial, there is pleanty of room as the WW2 names only occupy 1 of it's 4 sides.

Thanks again everyone.

sam

[KevinBattle]

Psst! While the Mods aren't looking, might be a help?

Chapelhall_WW2_RoH.doc

[Rob Bulloch]

Rob

Still unsure About Russell, Shotts Kirk, is a well known, very old church which can be seen from the M8 motorway between Glasgow and Edinburgh, it's not actually in Shotts , it's on the edge of the village of Salsburgh only 4 miles from Chapelhall, Shotts itself is 3 miles in the opposite direction from the Kirk, it'll have to be a don't know for now.

Sam. I wrote the address wrong it should read 161 Shottskirk Road it is up by Hannah Park home of the Shotts Bon Accord, so it is definitely in "The Shotts"

Sorry about that, lived in Allanton so I know the area quite well.

Cheers Rob.

[roughdiamond]

Thanks Rob

The search goes on.

Sam