Hoole War Memorial, Chester

[Alibear27]

Hi,

I'm doing a research project on the above and, although i have about 70% of the details from the CWGC there are some missing (or there's not enough detail on the Debt of Honour to confirm they are from Hoole), I'd be grateful of any information anyone has about the memorial and also who/how the names were gathered to go on the memorial as I assume there must be a detailed record of who they were somewhere!

Thanks very much!

Alison

[River97]

Alison,

There have been quite a few requests in the past similar to yours. if you have them, can you post the names here and we will see what we can drag up to help you out.

Cheers Andy.

[MBrockway]

While we're waiting, here's the detail of the Hoole Memorial on Carl's Cam:

Carl's Cam: Hoole War Memorial, Chester

Not sure where Carl has got his location of "London Road" from though - the memorial is in Hoole Road at Flookersbrook.

Here it is in StreetView ...

Google StreetView: Hoole War Memorial

Cheers,

Mark

[KevinBattle]

Geoff's Search Engine produces these:-

BAKER TW 46972 17TH BN 26/03/1918 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

BARKER W 36097 A COY 8TH BN 07/06/1917 THE LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BENTHAM J 201456 2ND/4TH BN 21/03/1918 EAST LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BOOTE SH 294121 143RD HEAVY BTY 17/05/1917 ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY

BOWE JE 40307 7TH BN 22/09/1917 SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BRAZENDALE EO WR/295967 RAILWAY STORES DUDULAR 13/12/1918 ROYAL ENGINEERS

BURGHALL E 265036 1ST/5TH BN 20/09/1918 SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

CATHERALL E 21479 19TH BN 01/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

CATLEY RR 1009 - 26/09/1914 ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY

DAVIES RC - CHESTER 17/05/1917 ROYAL ENGINEERS

DAWSON SJ 31490 1ST/4TH BN 26/03/1918 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY

DICKINSON W 165 WELSH DIV CYCLIST COY 23/08/1915 ARMY CYCLIST CORPS

DODD F 1684 1ST BN 04/09/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

DOUBLEDAY C 4279 14TH BN 18/02/1917 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

EARLAM A 241401 6TH BN 16/04/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

EDWARDS WH 1842 1ST/16TH BN 01/07/1916 LONDON REGIMENT (QUEEN'S WESTMINSTER RIFLES)

EDWARDS RE 44621 2ND BN 27/10/1918 ESSEX REGIMENT

ELLIS WH 345696 HMS CADMUS 01/01/1917 ROYAL NAVY

EVANS GW 92243 2ND/2ND NORTHUMBRIAN FIELD AMB 27/05/1918 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

FIDDLER J 39744 15TH BN 10/07/1917 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

GREAVES A 10596 1ST BN 20/10/1919 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

GRIFFITHS WR 19431 2ND BN 07/09/1915 SUFFOLK REGIMENT

HARRISON J 47736 17TH BN 01/01/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

HUGHES W 11487 1ST BN 01/03/1919 GRENADIER GUARDS

HUGHES H 3388 1ST BN 11/07/1918 WELSH GUARDS

JENKINS WJ 30144 20TH BN 30/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

JONES GE 28424 4TH BN 30/04/1917 SOUTH WALES BORDERERS

JONES A 315224 2ND BN 31/12/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

JONES WH 3068 1ST/7TH BN 14/07/1916 ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE REGIMENT

KAY WJ 50531 1ST BN 21/08/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

KING JE 15404 17TH BN 27/06/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

LEONARD W 25923 10TH BN 01/09/1918 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

LEONARD G W/1029 13TH BN 20/01/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

LLOYD S 446898 438TH FIELD COY 19/02/1917 ROYAL ENGINEERS

MCGREGOR C 51812 1ST BN 02/09/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

OWENS J S4/218788 16TH FIELD BAKERY 04/11/1918 ARMY SERVICE CORPS

PINCHES NG 21589 19TH BN 30/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

PLEAVIN C 203108 1ST/4TH BN 02/03/1919 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

ROBERTS W 2283 1ST BN 09/05/1915 ROYAL IRISH RIFLES

ROGERS FM 10867 1ST BN 25/09/1915 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

SANSAM G 4708 21ST FIELD AMB 05/10/1917 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

SMITH W 45965 15TH BN 30/09/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

SPEED HS 238104 13TH BN 31/08/1918 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

STUBBS J 11552 11TH BN 26/05/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

SUMPTER J 40710 6TH BN 17/10/1918 SOUTH WALES BORDERERS

SUTTON A 604960 5TH PROVISIONAL COY 17/05/1920 ROYAL ENGINEERS

SUTTON J 36811 2ND/7TH BN 09/10/1917 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

TANNER JH 67238 97TH COUNTY PALATINE FIELD AMB 12/07/1916 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

TAYLOR H 26817 1ST BN 26/09/1916 THE LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

WALTERS WH 49315 20TH BN 31/07/1917 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

WILBRAHAM FW 407162 25TH BN 25/01/1921 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

WILBRAHAM F 4130 1ST/5TH BN 11/08/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

WILLIAMS TT 75028 21ST LABOUR COY 10/12/1918 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

WILLIAMS JG MS/310 38TH DIV MECHANICAL TRANSPORT COY 17/04/1918 ARMY SERVICE CORPS

which I assume you already have?

What Names do you have on the Memorial, and which do you still need help confirming?

Local History Groups, usually connected with the Local Study Centres in Libraries may assist, also they have access to local newspaper archives which can have more details on casualties etc as well as photos.

[MBrockway]

Kevin,

Of your list from Geoff's Search Engine, the following are included on the Memorial:

BAKER TW 46972 17TH BN 26/03/1918 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

BOOTE SH 294121 143RD HEAVY BTY 17/05/1917 ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY

BOWE JE 40307 7TH BN 22/09/1917 SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BURGHALL E 265036 1ST/5TH BN 20/09/1918 SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

CATLEY RR 1009 - 26/09/1914 ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY

DAWSON SJ 31490 1ST/4TH BN 26/03/1918 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY

DICKINSON W 165 WELSH DIV CYCLIST COY 23/08/1915 ARMY CYCLIST CORPS

DODD F 1684 1ST BN 04/09/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

DOUBLEDAY C 4279 14TH BN 18/02/1917 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

EARLAM A 241401 6TH BN 16/04/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

EDWARDS RE 44621 2ND BN 27/10/1918 ESSEX REGIMENT

EDWARDS WH 1842 1ST/16TH BN 01/07/1916 LONDON REGIMENT (QUEEN'S WESTMINSTER RIFLES)

EVANS GW 92243 2ND/2ND NORTHUMBRIAN FIELD AMB 27/05/1918 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

GREAVES A 10596 1ST BN 20/10/1919 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

GRIFFITHS WR 19431 2ND BN 07/09/1915 SUFFOLK REGIMENT

HARRISON J 47736 17TH BN 01/01/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

JENKINS WJ 30144 20TH BN 30/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

JONES GE 28424 4TH BN 30/04/1917 SOUTH WALES BORDERERS

JONES WH 3068 1ST/7TH BN 14/07/1916 ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE REGIMENT

KAY WJ 50531 1ST BN 21/08/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

KING JE 15404 17TH BN 27/06/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

LEONARD G W/1029 13TH BN 20/01/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

LEONARD W 25923 10TH BN 01/09/1918 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

LLOYD S 446898 438TH FIELD COY 19/02/1917 ROYAL ENGINEERS

MCGREGOR C 51812 1ST BN 02/09/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

ROBERTS W 2283 1ST BN 09/05/1915 ROYAL IRISH RIFLES

SMITH W 45965 15TH BN 30/09/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

SPEED HS 238104 13TH BN 31/08/1918 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

SUMPTER J 40710 6TH BN 17/10/1918 SOUTH WALES BORDERERS

TANNER JH 67238 97TH COUNTY PALATINE FIELD AMB 12/07/1916 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

TAYLOR H 26817 1ST BN 26/09/1916 THE LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

WALTERS WH 49315 20TH BN 31/07/1917 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

WILBRAHAM F 4130 1ST/5TH BN 11/08/1916 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

WILBRAHAM FW 407162 25TH BN 25/01/1921 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

WILLIAMS JG MS/310 38TH DIV MECHANICAL TRANSPORT COY 17/04/1918 ARMY SERVICE CORPS

Count = 35

The following are on the Memorial, but not in Kevin's list from Geoff's Serach Engine:

BENYON J

BRADSHAW T

BUTLER H

CARLINE T

DAVIDSON W M

DINWIDDIE F

DUTTON H

DUTTON S V H

EDGE A

FAICHNEY J H

FOSBROOKE J L

GOODING J S

GOUGH W

GREAVES G H

GRIFFITHS W S

HIDDLESTONE W B

HOLLOWAY H C

HOLMES F W

JONES E B

JONES I

JONES R L

JONES S A

JONES T W A

KELLY W T

LAIRD C

LAUDER J

LAWSON G W

LEONARD T

LITTLER C

LLOYD S [Edit: WRONG! This should read LLOYD H - apologies. LLOYD S is on Kevin's list]

LOAM G H

LOCKLEY G

MARRS J

MEACOCK H

MORRIS H

MORRIS T

MORRISON R C

NORCOTT J C

NUTTALL V

PADDOCK A G

PARKINSON F

PARRY N J

PRICE T

RABY F A

REYNOLDS A

ROBERTS J S

ROBERTSON G

STRINGER W

SUMPTER A

TASKER F P

THOMAS S

TILSON J E

TULLOCK R G

TULLOCK W

WALKER S G

WALTON A

WATSON G W

WEST A

WILBRAHAM S

WILLIAMS R

Count = 60

And the following are in Kevin's list from Geoff's Search Engine, but not on the Memorial:

BARKER W 36097 A COY 8TH BN 07/06/1917 THE LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BENTHAM J 201456 2ND/4TH BN 21/03/1918 EAST LANCASHIRE REGIMENT

BRAZENDALE EO WR/295967 RAILWAY STORES DUDULAR 13/12/1918 ROYAL ENGINEERS

CATHERALL E 21479 19TH BN 01/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

DAVIES RC - CHESTER 17/05/1917 ROYAL ENGINEERS

ELLIS WH 345696 HMS CADMUS 01/01/1917 ROYAL NAVY

FIDDLER J 39744 15TH BN 10/07/1917 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

HUGHES W 11487 1ST BN 01/03/1919 GRENADIER GUARDS

HUGHES H 3388 1ST BN 11/07/1918 WELSH GUARDS

JONES A 315224 2ND BN 31/12/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

OWENS J S4/218788 16TH FIELD BAKERY 04/11/1918 ARMY SERVICE CORPS

PINCHES NG 21589 19TH BN 30/07/1916 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

PLEAVIN C 203108 1ST/4TH BN 02/03/1919 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

ROGERS FM 10867 1ST BN 25/09/1915 ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS

SANSAM G 4708 21ST FIELD AMB 05/10/1917 ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

STUBBS J 11552 11TH BN 26/05/1918 CHESHIRE REGIMENT

SUTTON A 604960 5TH PROVISIONAL COY 17/05/1920 ROYAL ENGINEERS

SUTTON J 36811 2ND/7TH BN 09/10/1917 LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

WILLIAMS TT 75028 21ST LABOUR COY 10/12/1918 THE KING'S (LIVERPOOL REGIMENT)

Count = 19

There are 95 names on the Memorial according to Carl's Cam.

HTH

Cheers,

Mark

[John_Hartley]

and also who/how the names were gathered to go on the memorial as I assume there must be a detailed record of who they were somewhere!

Two likely ways forward.

Firstly, the local newspaper is likely to have carried a story about money being raised for the memorial and/or an invitation for names to be put forward, etc. I see it was unveiled at Easter 1923 so you'd probbaly be searching the papers from around 1920 onwards.

Secondly, ask whoever now has responsible for its maintenance. They may have original documents or, at least, be able to suggest where they might now be.

My guess, from the wording of the inscription, is this was probably a local authority memorial, rather than a parish one. Presumably that'll have been whatever the council was before the area was incorporated into Chester in 1954.

[MBrockway]

Further to John's suggestions, I can recommend the Chester History and Heritage Centre in St Michael's Church opposite The Falcon in the city centre. You can't miss it.

Also the main Library in Chester has an excellent local history section and are very helpful.

IIRC both have good newspaper archives.

Cheers,

Mark

[Alibear27]

These are the names that have no "next of kin" details on the Debt of Honour list:

BRADSHAW, T.

BUTLER, H.

DAVISON, W.M.

DUTTON, M.

DUTTON, S.V.H.

FAICHNEY, J.H.

FOSBROOKE, J.L.

GOODING, J.S.

GREAVES, G.H.

GRIFFITHS, W.S.

JONES, E.B.

JONES, I.

JONES, R.L.

JONES, S.A.

LLOYD, H.

LAUDER, J.

LAWSON, G.W.

LEONARD, T.

MEACOCK, H.

MORRIS, H.

MORRIS, T.

NORCOTT, J.C.

NUTTALL, V.

PARKINSON, F.

PRICE, T.

REYNOLDS, A.

ROBERTS, J.S.

ROBERTS, W.

STRINGER, W.

TAYLOR, H.

THOMAS, S.

TULLOCK, R.G.

TULLOCK, W.

WALKER, S.G.

WILLIAMS, R.

WALTON, A.

This is just under a third of the total. very much for any assistance.

Cheers

Alison

[KevinBattle]

Mark, Thanks very much for taking the time to split and compare the Lists.

I made the elementary mistake of not Googling, just checked if it was on the Roll of Honour website.

Carls Cam is a very useful and under rated resource.

Now we can try and link the "unconnected" Names with Hoole.

[bruce]

Just a few on SDGW looked at random

John Hamilton Faichney...220703....Ist Princess Charlotte of Wales (Royal Berks)....born Hoole, enlisted Redford, rsidence Hoole

L/Corp....KIA 8.10.18......formerly 106449 Herts Yeo

John Lee Fosbrooke....3612.....Pte....London regt, 2nd (City of London) Royal Fus....born Stockport, enlisted Westminster, residence Lambeth

DOW 22.11.15

William Stringer....37417.....9th Lancs Fus....born Hoole, enlisted Chester, residence Hoole....KIA 5.12.16...formerly 4075 Cheshire regt.

Walter Tullock....59303....25th (Tyneside Irish) Northumberland Fus......born Chester, enlisted Liverpool.....DOW 23.3.18....formerly 12695 AOC

Hope these help a bit.

Bruce

[bruce]

Playing a little further....

On Faichney's MiC, there is no mention of either his service in the herts yeo, nor of his death

Fosbrooke.....NoK in Brixton, buried in Boulogne Southern cem VIII.C.58, went to France 25.8.15 and entitled to 14-15 Star, but again his MiC shows no date of death.

William Stringer, parents Late Robert and Elizabeth (no address), is commemmorated on Thiepval 3C and 3D. According to his Mic, not in F&F before end of 1915 so no Star, and also no date of death.

Curious!

Bruce

[River97]

NORCOTT, J.C.

MIC show's that he was entitled to the 1914-15 Star trio, Private with the Liverpool Regt.

Thing is, he also qualified for the IGSM clasp NWFF 1919.

Nothing on SDGW or service or pension records.

Cheers Andy.

[MBrockway]

Mark, Thanks very much for taking the time to split and compare the Lists.

Carls Cam is a very useful and under rated resource.

Now we can try and link the "unconnected" Names with Hoole.

Pals - I made a minor slip with the two LLOYDS -see Edit in my earlier Post.

Yes - Carl's site is fantastic for us NW-based Pals, and I take every chance to promote it here whenever I can!

Cheers,

Mark

[Alibear27]

Wow, thanks guys! You've saved me days if not weeks of shuffling through records. This is amazing! I'm off to sort through this and will be back with any queries if that's ok!

Thanks again,

Alison

[KevinBattle]

Thanks all, as without that additional information it can be impossible to select which of the similar names are correct.

Name: FAICHNEY

Initials: J

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 08/10/1918

Service No: 220703

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: I. E. 9.

Cemetery: RUMILLY-EN-CAMBRESIS COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Name: FOSBROOKE, JOHN LEE

Initials: J L

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers

Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Age: 18

Date of Death: 23/11/1915

Service No: 3612

Additional information: Son of John and Annie Fosbrooke, of 39, Somerleyton Rd., Brixton, London. Native of Stockport, Cheshire.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. C. 58.

Cemetery: BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY

Name: STRINGER, WILLIAM

Initials: W

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers

Unit Text: 9th Bn.

Age: 21

Date of Death: 05/12/1916

Service No: 37417

Additional information: Son of the late Robert and Elizabeth Stringer.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 C and 3 D.

Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Name: TULLOCH, WALTER CHELLINWORTH

Initials: W C

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers

Unit Text: 25th (Tyneside Irish) Bn.

Age: 31

Date of Death: 23/03/1918

Service No: 59303

Additional information: Son of Maria Tulloch, of 15, Halkyn Rd., Hoole Rd., Chester, and the late Walter Robert Tulloch.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: III. J. 83.

Cemetery: DERNANCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Note: CWGC has him as TULLOCH not TullocK which raises the question on (brother?) RG TullocK

If Norcott JC was serving in 1919, and no JC Norcott on CWGC, is this Memorial to those who SERVED (and therefore some SURVIVED) or to those who FELL? In which case may be another transcription issue (NorcUtt etc...)

Errr....

Found these - do they belong to Hoole or not?

Name: EDGE, ALEXANDER

Initials: A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: The Buffs (East Kent Regiment)

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 31

Date of Death: 26/10/1918

Service No: 26144

Additional information: Husband of Lilian Edge, of 4, Vivian Terrace, Hoole Lane, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: III. F. 4.

Cemetery: ST. SOUPLET BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: HARRISON, WILLIAM ALLEN

Initials: W A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: King's Shropshire Light Infantry

Unit Text: "B" Coy. 7th Bn.

Age: 36

Date of Death: 11/06/1917

Service No: 26386

Additional information: Husband of Frances Louisa Harrison, of 9, Vivian Terrace, Hoole Lane, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. J. 14.

Cemetery: DUISANS BRITISH CEMETERY, ETRUN

Name: HOLLOWAY, HENRY CHARLES

Initials: H C

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Company Quartermaster Serjeant

Regiment/Service: Cheshire Regiment

Secondary Regiment: King's African Rifles

Secondary Unit Text: attd. 2nd/3rd

Age: 28

Date of Death: 28/12/1918

Service No: 241030

Awards: D C M

Additional information: Son of Charles and Clara Holloway, of 6, Hoole Park, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. A. 2.

Cemetery: DAR ES SALAAM (UPANGA ROAD) CEMETERY

Name: IMISON, CHARLES KENNETH

Initials: C K

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Serjeant

Regiment/Service: The King's (Liverpool Regiment)

Unit Text: 17th Bn.

Date of Death: 09/08/1916

Service No: 15718

Additional information: Husband of D. B. Imison, of Oak Lea, Hoole Road, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. C. 4.

Cemetery: ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Name: LITTLER, CHARLES WILLIAM

Initials: C W

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment/Service: Grenadier Guards

Unit Text: 3rd Bn.

Age: 24

Date of Death: 17/10/1916

Service No: 22472

Additional information: Son of Charles and Mary Littler, of Chester; husband of Ellen Littler, of 4, Vivian Terrace, Hoole Lane, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 13. 23.

Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN

Name: OWEN, NEIL

Initials: N

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers

Unit Text: 8th Bn.

Age: 21

Date of Death: 21/09/1915

Service No: 11667

Additional information: Son of Thomas & Catherine Owen, of 3, Burley Villas, Hoole Bank, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 4.

Cemetery: AZMAK CEMETERY, SUVLA

Name: RHODES

Initials: G

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Cheshire Regiment

Unit Text: 16th Bn.

Age: 30

Date of Death: 29/04/1917

Service No: 50438

Additional information: Husband of H. Rhodes, of 21, Station View, Hoole Lane, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. J. 8.

Cemetery: GRAND-SERAUCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: STEAD, LANCELOT

Initials: L

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Rifleman

Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade

Unit Text: "B" Coy. 12th Bn.

Age: 20

Date of Death: 30/03/1918

Service No: S/7521

Additional information: Son of Mrs. H. Stead, of 21, Cross St., Hoole Lane, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 81 to 84.

Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL

Name: TASKER, FIELD PASS

Initials: F P

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Second Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Royal Warwickshire Regiment

Unit Text: 16th Bn.

Age: 23

Date of Death: 06/10/1917

Additional information: Son of William Warhurst Tasker and Amelia Stanworth Tasker, of Moulson House, Hoole Rd., Chester. Born Chester. Formerly Cpl. 1st/5th (Earl of Chester's) Bn. Cheshire Regt. (T.F.). Volunteered 9th Sept., 1914. Flanders, 14th Feb., 1915.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: XX. G. 4.

Cemetery: LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

Name: WILLIS, ARTHUR SIDNEY

Initials: A S

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Gunner

Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery

Unit Text: 230th Siege Bty.

Age: 22

Date of Death: 28/03/1918

Service No: 69406

Additional information: Son of Joseph H. & Elizabeth Willis, of Hoole Old Hall, Hoole Village, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 39.

Cemetery: AUBIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Curious that there appear to be 2 families in 4, Vivian Terrace. must have been a sad little street with these casualties...

[MBrockway]

Kevin,

Hoole Bank and Hoole Village are little hamlets outside Chester just beyond the M53 and a couple of miles away from the Chester suburb known as Hoole, which is really named after Hoole Road - a major road leading out of Chester towards (unsurprisingly) Hoole Village.

They're more likely to be commemorated in Mickle Trafford if indeed there is a memorial there.

The rest of your list are very local to the memorial though.

Cheers,

Mark

[bruce]

Charles Kenneth Imison was born in Runcorn, lived in Chester and enlisted in Liverpool.

He was a graduate of Liverpool university, gaining a B.Eng in 1913.

he was in france by 7.11.15, according to his MiC.

I have a headstone pic, if wanted.

Bruce

[Guest rockpile17]

Name: OWEN, NEIL

Initials: N

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers

Unit Text: 8th Bn.

Age: 21

Date of Death: 21/09/1915

Service No: 11667

Additional information: Son of Thomas & Catherine OWEN, of 3, Burley Villas, Hoole Bank, Chester.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 4.

Cemetery: AZMAK CEMETERY, SUVLA

Neil OWEN is commemorated on the war memorial in Connah's Quay, next to his brother Frank. The reason for the mention of Hoole Bank is that his widowed father had remarried and moved there.

Of the 5 OWEN brothers in 1914, only 2 survived the war, and one of those 2 (Sgt Walter OWEN RWF) was wounded and discharged in 1916. (Locally known as Skip Owen thereafter, due to his limp).

[mikechester]

I'm still finding my way around the mass of information on this wonderful site and have just come across this thread. One of those named on the Hoole memorial is also listed on the memorials in Backford church and at Port Sunlight and this summary of his life (part of a project to research all those named on the Backford memorial) should help to explain why.

2^nd Lt Thomas Carline 18^th Kings Liverpool Regiment

Thomas Carline was born on 17 Dec 1887 at 93 Francis St, Chester, the third son of John and Elizabeth Carline; his father was a Post Office clerk and later a superintendent. He was baptised at St John the Baptist church on 21 March 1888. The family moved to 19 Hamilton Street in Hoole and the 1911 census describes Thomas as a clerk with a soap manufacturer (Lever Bros.); he lived in Port Sunlight after his marriage to Edith Hallam in Q4 1917 and is also named on the Port Sunlight Memorial which commemorates Lever Bros employees. In 1911 his father had bought a plot of land on Grove Road and built ‘Leaholm’ where Dorothy (daughter of Thomas’s brother John and his wife) was born in 1912. It is not clear when Thomas joined up but it must have been early in the war as he was awarded the 1915 Star. He rose to be Company Quartermaster Sergeant in The Kings (Liverpool Regiment) and was promoted to temporary 2^nd Lt attached to the 15^th Battn Lancashire Fusiliers. Thomas was killed on 30 September 1918 during the Battle of the St Quentin Canal, when the 46^th (N Midland) Division stormed the Hindenburg Line at Bellenglise and took 4000 prisoners and 700 guns. He is buried in the Uplands cemetery at Magny-la-Fosse, in the St Quentin district of Picardy.

[aradgick]

Samuel Arthur Jones, 15061, Grenadier Guards, died 17.9.14, born Chester

Ernest Brant Jones, 735987, Royal Field Artillery, died 5.1.18, born Hoole

Richard Llewelyn Jones, 180638, Canadian Infantry, died 13.3.17, born Chester

Andrewr

[Alibear27]

Hi Andrewr,

Thanks very much for this! Pleas can you let me know where you got it as I have to verify before it gets included in the official list (Hoole Heritage and History Society are trying to get it published for next year).

Thanks very much, again.

[clive_hughes]

Hi,

I see the name of William Henry ELLIS RN on Hoole War Memorial. I had forgotten that he was connected with there.

He was born 4 April 1884 at Menai Bridge, Anglesey, and joined the Navy on 8 November 1902 as Carpenters crew (his trade was a Joiner). Having served in various ships and shore establishments, in May 1912 he was posted to HMS KING EDWARD VII and was aboard her when War was declared. On 1 January 1916 he was promoted to Leading Carpenter's Crew, but on 6 January the ship struck a mine and sank off Cape Wrath, Scotland with one fatality. He was then sent to shore base HMS PEMBROKE II and became a Shipwright 2nd Class on 7 March 1916. On 11 March 1916 he was posted to HMS CADMUS. On 1 January 1917 he died of heart failure in the China Sea aged 31, and was buried at sea.

His next of kin was recorded by the Navy as his mother Sarah, of Demerara House, Menai Bridge, and he is commemorated on the Chatham Naval Memorial; the Menai Bridge (Llandysilio) War Memorial (as a Petty Officer 1st Class!); and the Llandysilio panel of the North Wales Heroes' Memorial Arch in nearby Bangor.

The CWGC show his parents resident (by the 1920s anyway) at 20 Vicarage Road, Hoole so I guess that was his connection. I'd be pleased to learn if any other information is available.

Clive

[aradgick]

Alison,

Samuel and Ernest Jones are listed in SDGW.

Richard's attestation papers can be seen at www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

Andrewr

[asanewt]

Hello, I must have dozed off on this one. I have a fair bit of material regarding the action in which C Doubleday perished along with several comrades including my Dad's brother if you are interested.

Good luck

[Alibear27]

Thanks, definitely interested! How would be best to share info?