jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 My Great Grandfather Thomas Glew was in 9th (Territorial Reserve) Battalion Royal Berkshire Regiment 16444 and the Military Foot Police P/4255 from 22nd September 1916. Born around 1874, not sure where (maybe Chichester) and died just after WWI on 5th January 1919 in Oxford hospital. He has a CWGC white gravestone with Military Police Insignia on it and is burried in Easthapstead Parish Churchyard. I have three questions, if anyone can expand on my limited amount of information been able to gather so far on Thomas Glew. 1. If, he did not serve overseas or see action, why did he obtain a CWGC white gravestone, especially after dying after the war had ended? 2. If anyone has any additional details at all on his Royal Berkshire Regiment OR Military Police details I would love to find out. 3. Can not find anywhere, exactly where and when he was born as this is stopping me agthering further information on the Glew side of my family tree. From 1901 and 1911 census, he has place of birth different in both which have turned out to be wrong in both cases. I have already written to RMP Museum, but nothing much back I am afraid. Thank you very much for any information or direction I need to take to find some more information on my Great Grandfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi This site says he was born in Chichester and that his is on SDGW as CLEW (which he, indeed, is ). http://www.corpsofmilitarypolice.org/soldier/4692/ Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi 1911 census (I believe but dont take my word for it) GLEW, Thomas Head Married M 34 1877 Gardener Domestic Sunninghill Berks (Married 11 years) GLEW, Harriett Wife F 34 1877 Bracknell Berks GLEW, Tom Son M 7 1904 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, William Everard Son M 6 1905 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, Charles Frederick Son M 5 1906 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, Robert Stanley Son M 2 1909 Sunninghill Berks 1, Rose Cottages, Oriental Row, Sunninghill. Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi This site says he was born in Chichester and that his is on SDGW as CLEW (which he, indeed, is ). http://www.corpsofmilitarypolice.org/soldier/4692/ Regards, Graeme Hi Graeme, Thank you so much for that MFP website, most useful. So it seems he was born in Chichester which will relate to my line of research for him to date. It seems he was illigitimate which is probably why he did not give real place of birth on census records. SDGW is that another website? Thank you again for the website, I have a picture of the gravestone, so I can try and upload that for the site as it needs one. Thanks again. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi 1911 census (I believe but dont take my word for it) GLEW, Thomas Head Married M 34 1877 Gardener Domestic Sunninghill Berks (Married 11 years) GLEW, Harriett Wife F 34 1877 Bracknell Berks GLEW, Tom Son M 7 1904 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, William Everard Son M 6 1905 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, Charles Frederick Son M 5 1906 School Sunninghill Berks GLEW, Robert Stanley Son M 2 1909 Sunninghill Berks 1, Rose Cottages, Oriental Row, Sunninghill. Graeme Thanks Graeme for the above also, it is indeed 1911 Census, I finally found the family listed under Clew here and updated it on the records. As you can see, he listed place of birth as Sunninhill, Berkshire which is not correct and as previous post believe it was Chichester, with illigitimate parents. My Grandfather John Percy Glew was born just after 1911 census in May 1912. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi John SDGW is Soldiers Died in the Great War. Was published after the war listing all war dead, now on a CD. Your entry reads Acting Lance Corporal P/4255 Thomas Clew, Foot Branch, Corps of Military Police Born Chichester Enlisted Workingham Resided Bracknell Formerly 16444 Royal Berks. Died 5/1/19 Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi John SDGW is Soldiers Died in the Great War. Was published after the war listing all war dead, now on a CD. Your entry reads Acting Lance Corporal P/4255 Thomas Clew, Foot Branch, Corps of Military Police Born Chichester Enlisted Workingham Resided Bracknell Formerly 16444 Royal Berks. Died 5/1/19 Regards, Graeme Dear Graeme, Thank you so much for that information, you have been such agreat help. I will have to get that CD I think, will be most useful and also will not take up time such as yours ascould have found that info if I had the cd. Many thanks again. Best Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 John, My pleasure, thats what we are all here for. The CD is rather expensive and I have seen threads on the Forum stating that it does not run on Windows 7, so be careful. The information is also on Ancestry.co.uk in their Military Section. Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 This might explain the diffrence in Thomas's birth locations, from the 1881 census: TURNER, Mark, Head, Single, Farm Lab, born 1861 in Sunney Hill, Berkshire GLUE, Susan, Housekeeper, Single, Housekeeper Dom born 1851 in St Francis, Chichester GLUE, Thomas, Son, Single, Scholar, born 1877 in Burstow Surrey Also. Cant find a birth registration for him, not under Glue, Glew, Clew anyway Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi, The reason your GGF has a CWGC headstone is because the CWGC commemorates those who have died during the designated war years in service or of causes attributable to service. The war years are considered to be, World War I - 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921 World War II - 3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947 Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 John, My pleasure, thats what we are all here for. The CD is rather expensive and I have seen threads on the Forum stating that it does not run on Windows 7, so be careful. The information is also on Ancestry.co.uk in their Military Section. Regards, Graeme Graeme, Thanks again, saw that the cd was quite expensive, will have to save up I think. Thomas not on ancestry military that I can see. Post below seems to have some ideas along the same lines as me re his birth etc. Thanks again. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 This might explain the diffrence in Thomas's birth locations, from the 1881 census: TURNER, Mark, Head, Single, Farm Lab, born 1861 in Sunney Hill, Berkshire GLUE, Susan, Housekeeper, Single, Housekeeper Dom born 1851 in St Francis, Chichester GLUE, Thomas, Son, Single, Scholar, born 1877 in Burstow Surrey Also. Cant find a birth registration for him, not under Glue, Glew, Clew anyway Grant Hi Grant, Wow, thank you for this information, it does look possible, always thought might be illigitimate which might still be the case. So is this Mark Turner his father? I have I think from his marriage certificate his fathers name again is Thomas!! More in depth esearch I think to try and solve this one, if i can at all!! Thank you again Grant. All the best John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 4 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2010 Hi, The reason your GGF has a CWGC headstone is because the CWGC commemorates those who have died during the designated war years in service or of causes attributable to service. The war years are considered to be, World War I - 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921 World War II - 3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947 Alan Thanks Alan, For clearing that up for me, its just nice to know that even though he did not see action, they are classed along with ones that did, although subsequently loosing their lives. Many Thanks. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 4 May , 2010 Share Posted 4 May , 2010 So is this Mark Turner his father? I have I think from his marriage certificate his fathers name again is Thomas!! Dont think so, Mark TURNER and Susan GLEW married in 1881 - Reigate / 2A / 231 / 2qt / 1881 Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 5 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 5 May , 2010 Dont think so, Mark TURNER and Susan GLEW married in 1881 - Reigate / 2A / 231 / 2qt / 1881 Grant Even though married after Thomas was born, still could be illigitimate child of them both, OR another father entirely with christian name of Thomas. This may be very wrong though. Thanks for the inputs Grant, not sure ever going to get to bottom of this one unfortunately, thus stopping the Glew line of my family tree before it started. Thanks again. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purley Posted 9 May , 2010 Share Posted 9 May , 2010 My Great Grandfather Thomas Glew was in 9th (Territorial Reserve) Battalion Royal Berkshire Regiment 16444 and the Military Foot Police P/4255 from 22nd September 1916. Born around 1874, not sure where (maybe Chichester) and died just after WWI on 5th January 1919 in Oxford hospital. He has a CWGC white gravestone with Military Police Insignia on it and is burried in Easthapstead Parish Churchyard. I have three questions, if anyone can expand on my limited amount of information been able to gather so far on Thomas Glew. 1. If, he did not serve overseas or see action, why did he obtain a CWGC white gravestone, especially after dying after the war had ended? 2. If anyone has any additional details at all on his Royal Berkshire Regiment OR Military Police details I would love to find out. 3. Can not find anywhere, exactly where and when he was born as this is stopping me agthering further information on the Glew side of my family tree. From 1901 and 1911 census, he has place of birth different in both which have turned out to be wrong in both cases. I have already written to RMP Museum, but nothing much back I am afraid. He was born in Chichester and enlisted 12/1/1915 joining the 9th (Service) Battalion Royal Berkshire Regiment. This was converted to be the 37th Training Reserve Regiment 1/9/1916 and he was renumbered TR/8/16164 From here he was transferred to the Corps of Military Foot Police as P/4255 He died 5/1/19 and is buried at Easthampstead Church (Bracknell) and is recorded oon the Easthampstead War memorial His address was given as 6 Searle St, Easthampstead. regards John Thank you very much for any information or direction I need to take to find some more information on my Great Grandfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles487 Posted 12 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2010 FAO: Purley Thank you very much for the additional information you have supplied although it took me a few minutes to decipher what was said. The address at 6 Searle street is correct. The Easthampstead war memorial I believe is actually inside the parish church, if not then his name although not seen it, is on a plaque inside the parish church also. It was closed when I visited his grave, so could not gain access. Thanks again for the information and perhaps I can find out some additional details now along the Glew line for my family tree. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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