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Original 63rd. Division.?


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Recently I saw reference to a 63rd. Division prior to the RN Division, has anyone any information please.

Colin..

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I did check LLT Chris but just "British Divisions", alas neglected Home based Divisions, have gone to the back of the class.

Thanks.

Colin. :innocent:

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Hello Colin

When the original 63rd (2?Northumbrian) Division was broken up in early 1916, its artillery was sent to the Royal Naval Division which, until then, did not have any artillery of its own. That is why the RN Div was given the number 63.

Ron

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Thanks Ron for your reply , I was a little perplexed when I saw reference to it & as Chris pointed out my own stupidity not checking the Home units when I checked LLT , never checked the home units before, just British Divisions, always learning something.

Regards.

Colin.

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Dear All, I am new to the forum and note with interest your chat about 63rd. I am interested in Drake Divison of the RND between 1917 to 1918. Going to Arras and Cambrai in May, to see the battlefields and pay my respects . My father served under commander Sterndale Bennett and Commander Beak VC. Any info or photos would be wonderful. I have a couple of photos of interest too.

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oppy,

Welcome to the GWF. Regarding your search for Any info or photos would be wonderful

The history of the division was written in 1923 by Douglas Jerrold and a reprint may be had from the Naval & Military Press: it is simply called 'The Royal Naval Division'

Len Sellers, who wrote the history of the Hood Battalion also edited and produced a magazine called 'RND' for several years. This magazine has been recognised as such a valuable RND resource that, though it is no longer freely available, it is however to be found at the following libraries:

Accrington Library

Admiralty Library, Portsmouth, Hants

Aldershot Library Military Collection

Birmingham University, World War One Study Centre

Fleet Air Arm Museum, Yeovilton, Somerset [NB - which also houses the RND service records]

Imperial War Museum, London, Department of Printed Books

King's College, London. Liddle Hart Centre for Military Archives

Leeds University. The Liddle Collection, Special Collections, Brotherton Library

National Army Museum, Chelsea, London

Royal Marines Museum, Southsea, Hants

Royal Naval Museum, Portsmouth, Hants

Royal Signals Museum, Blandford, Dorset

good luck

Michael

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Hi Oppy and a very warm welcome to the Forum.

I assume you mean Drake Battalion and as well as the Jerrold book you might want to hunt down or buy 'On four Fronts with the Royal Naval Division' by Sparrow, also 'Command in the Royal Naval Division' by Barnett and also for your visit get hold of a copy of Gavrelle from the Battleground Europe series.

If you use the search facility on the top of the page and simply put in Oppy or Gavrelle you will see that there is a wealth of material on here. Remember to untick the box so that the search travels over the whole Forum. You will find lots of photographs from pals who have visited and I think some maps too. Well worth a few hours poring through the threads.

I hope you have a wonderful visit in May. I am often in the area (again first week in June so leave some good weather behind please!) and always pass the 63rd's memorial in Gavrelle on my way in and out, never without a thought for the men of that Division. I assume you are staying in Arras - love the place.

Jim

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Hello Oppy

The division's magazine during the War was called "The Mudhook." You may be able to find copies in big or specialist libraries such as the British Library or the Imperial War Museum library.

Ron

(Note: I have corrected "Mudlark", as I originally typed, to "Mudhook" - naval slang for an anchor.)

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Thank you all for your prompt replies and assistance. I have read Douglas Jerrold's book and pored over the internet for many hours. I acually have a copy of the Mudlark in my father's military belongings, amazing to read after so many years. I shall certainly read the other material and am looking forward to my visit in May.

Grateful for any help, chat soon.

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