Rifleman Arthur Garbutt Cromack

[marine pete]

Arthur Garbutt Cromack 12th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles service No 42220

Born Leeds Enlisted West London KIA 17/4/1918. Formerly TR/13/70432 TR Battalion.

Any additional Information would be of great help.

Best Regards Peter.

[johnny_doyle]

the service record/regt for Arthur Garbutt Cromack is different.....R/20565 KRR and then 497546 13th London Regt. Demobbed 2/12/1919.

lists home address as 195 Prospect Rd, Scarboro. Enlisted aged 18yrs 10months; a journalist by trade. Father with same name and address.

[marine pete]

the service record/regt for Arthur Garbutt Cromack is different.....R/20565 KRR and then 497546 13th London Regt.

lists home address as 195 Prospect Rd, Scarboro. Enlisted aged 18yrs 10months; a journalist by trade. Father with same name and address.

John. Do yo know his enlistment date and his date of death.

Regards Peter.

[johnny_doyle]

enlistment date from Service record is 5th Nov 1915.

Death record as follows :

Name: Arthur Garbutt Cromack

Birth Date: 29 Jan 1897

Death Registration Month/Year: 1969

Registration district: Manchester

Inferred County: Lancashire

Volume: 10e

Page: 189

[johnny_doyle]

CWGC, SDGW and Irelands Casualties database don't give Garbutt as the middle name for the RIR chap KIA in 1918.

Do you have any more info re the RIR chap?

[marine pete]

CWGC, SDGW and Irelands Casualties database don't give Garbutt as the middle name for the RIR chap KIA in 1918.

Do you have any more info re the RIR chap?

John The first Arthur Cromack 42220 The middle name GARBUTT might be his Mother's on SDGW. He is

From the Scarborough Area of East Yorkshire the Information might be on his MIC somebody might look it up this Information for me Regards Peter.

[johnny_doyle]

MIC entries on Ancestry :

Arthur G Cromack, KRR, 13-London Regiment R/20565, 497546, VM & BWM

Arthur Cromack, Royal Irish Rifles B/42220, VM & BWM

There are 2 Service Record entries for Arthur Garbutt Cromack, one with 2 images one with 32 :

Arthur Garbutt Cromack abt 1897 195 Prospect Road, Scarboro' 2 images

Arthur Garbutt Cromack abt 1897 195 Prospect Road, Scarboro' 32 images. demob date given as 2nd December 1919. As mentioned, his father has the same name ie Arthur Garbutt Cromack, same address. (He appears to have died in 1917).

No service records for the other Arthur Cromack.

[marine pete]

MIC entries on Ancestry :

Arthur G Cromack, KRR, 13-London Regiment R/20565, 497546, VM & BWM

Arthur Cromack, Royal Irish Rifles B/42220, VM & BWM

There are 2 Service Record entries for Arthur Garbutt Cromack, one with 2 images one with 32 :

Arthur Garbutt Cromack abt 1897 195 Prospect Road, Scarboro' 2 images

Arthur Garbutt Cromack abt 1897 195 Prospect Road, Scarboro' 32 images. demob date given as 2nd December 1919. As mentioned, his father has the same name ie Arthur Garbutt Cromack, same address. (He appears to have died in 1917).

No service records for the other Arthur Cromack.

John. The Information I have been given it looks like his Farther who had died in 1917 and not him as the address is the same thank you for all your help with this one . Best Regards Peter.

[johnny_doyle]

that could be the case. A pity none of the databases confirm the middle name. One of the Scarborough War Memorial's does have an entry for an A G Cromack so this probably is the case.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/...rsMountWM1.html

There's a J W Cromack on this memorial too. He appears to be Cpl Joseph Cromack, MGC 23527 (formerly 1026 Yorshire Regt). His father appears to be an Arthur M Cromack (with a son Arthur) according to the 1901 census.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=725839

I should mention that in the 1901 census for the 2 Arthur Garbutt Cromack's, the Grandfather of the eldest Arthur is resident at the same address - Benjamin Garbutt, aged 82.

Based on the 1881 census, the Arthur M Cromack is the uncle of the eldest Arthur G Cromack.

[marine pete]

that could be the case. A pity none of the databases confirm the middle name. One of the Scarborough War Memorial's does have an entry for an A G Cromack so this probably is the case.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/...rsMountWM1.html

There's a J W Cromack on this memorial too. He appears to be Cpl Joseph Cromack, MGC 23527 (formerly 1026 Yorshire Regt). His father appears to be an Arthur M Cromack (with a son Arthur) according to the 1901 census.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=725839

I should mention that in the 1901 census for the 2 Arthur Garbutt Cromack's, the Grandfather of the eldest Arthur is resident at the same address - Benjamin Garbutt, aged 82.

Based on the 1881 census, the Arthur M Cromack is the uncle of the eldest Arthur G Cromack.

John I Think I should take a New look at all the Information you have provided

Best Regards Peter.