Orson Posted 24 March , 2010 Share Posted 24 March , 2010 Pals Last time I asked an impossible question and was amazed by the response. So, I have another for you. Again, this is a man who is on the War Memorial but I can't find him in the usual places. The Memorial Book for locals list him as being a private in the London Regiment and living in Wells. Any suggestions as to who he may be would be gratefully valued. Yours in hope, Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 24 March , 2010 Share Posted 24 March , 2010 Hi Sue, A sweep of CWGC for an "A J Taylor" 1914-1918 only brought up this man in the London Regiment:- Name: TAYLOR, ARTHUR JOHN Initials: A J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: London Regiment Unit Text: 1st/20th Bn. Age: 36 Date of Death: 01/10/1916 Service No: 5309 Additional information: Son of the late Charles William and Maria Taylor, of 171A, Cheltenham Rd., Bristol. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 9 D 9 C 13 C and 12 C. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Given the parents' location, I think this could be your man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 25 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Thank you for the suggestion. I just need to know his connection with Wells before I can confirm him. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River97 Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Sue, This may prove to be a bit of a sticky one. His MIC only shows service in the London Regt. I can't seem to find any service records either, not surprised really. By that there are a few 'Arthur John Taylor' in the list of service records, however, none have a link with Wells. Cheers Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Nor does any man by the name of Taylor listed in "Soldiers Died". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apwright Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 His father Charles William was born in Wells, according to the 1901 census. (Arthur is indexed as Arthur I. at 171a Cheltenham Rd, Bristol St Andrew's. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 From a quick loo, the National Roll of Honour shows Wells as incomplete and shows no Names. In case it helps, here is an extract using Geoff's Search Engine where Wells is given by NoK. WELLS_SOMERSET___WW1_ROLL_OF_HONOUR.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 25 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Thank you all for your help. The fact that his father was born in Wells may be the clue here. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Nor does any man by the name of Taylor listed in "Soldiers Died" [... have any connection with Bristol ...] Here's the SDGW entry for the AJ Taylor that Pal Verrico's already found on CWGC ... Name: Arthur John TAYLOR Birth Place: Islington, London Residence: Holborn Death Date: 1 Oct 1916 Enlistment Location: Stockwell Rank: Private Regiment: London Regiment Battalion: 20th (County of London) Battalion (Blackheath and Woolwich). Number: 5309 Type of Casualty: Killed in action See here (requires Ancestry membership): AJ Taylor in Ancestry version of SDGW Birthplace of Islington, Residence in Holborn and Enlistment in Stockwell don't sit well with parents in Bristol though. Looks like the family must have spent some time in London before the father returned to his native Bristol/Wells. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 25 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Thanks again to everyone. It seems that not only his father was born in Wells but his mother was born only a few miles outside the city. His father died in 1904 and so I presume his mother returned to her place of birth, so to speak. Thanks again. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 Sue, Been working back through the genealogy with mixed success. I tracked Arthur, his father, Charles William TAYLOR, and his mother, Maria TAYLOR, nee BOYCE. 1901 Census 171A Cheltenham Road, Bristol Charles W TAYLOR; Head; married; 59yrs (~1842); Living on own means; b. Wells, Somerset Maria TAYLOR; wife; married; 58yrs (~1843); b. Coaley [sic: should read Coxley], Somerset Arthur J TAYLOR; son; single; 21yrs (~1880); Tobacconist & Hairdresser (Employer); b. St Mark's, Bristol Gertrude M TAYLOR; daughter; single; 15yrs (~1886); b. St Philip's, Bristol Sarah BOYCE; sister in law; single; 50yrs (~1851); b. Coaley [sic: should read Coxley], Somerset 1891 Census 45 Seymour Road, Bristol Charles W TAYLOR; Head; married; 50yrs (~1841); Cattle Salesman's Assistant; b. Wells, Somerset Maria TAYLOR; wife; married; 50yrs (~1841); b. Wells, Somerset Arthur TAYLOR; son; single; 11yrs (~1880); scholar; b. Bristol Gertrude TAYLOR; daughter; single; 5yrs (~1886); scholar; b. Bristol 1881 Census Not found :-( Q1 1871 Wells Marriage Register Charles William TAYLOR Maria BOYCE 1871 Census 34 High Street, Wells (adjacent to Somerset Hotel) Charles W TAYLOR; Head; married; 29yrs (~1842); Butcher; b. Wells, Somerset Maria TAYLOR; wife; married; 30yrs (~1841); b. Coxley, Somerset Sarah MERRIFIELD; servant; single; 12yrs (~1859); General servant; b. Coxley, Somerset 1861 Census Not found & no Taylors appear to be at the 1851 address in Southover. 1851 Census Southover, Wells (penultimate household before start of Silver Street) Robert TAYLOR; Head; married; 47yrs (~1804); Butcher Elizabeth TAYLOR; wife; married; 46yrs (~1805) Henry TAYLOR; son; 15yrs (~1836); Father's Assistant Sarah TAYLOR; daughter; 13yrs (~1838) Charles TAYLOR; son; 10yrs (~1841); scholar Richard TAYLOR; son; 7yrs (~1844); scholar Emily TAYLOR; daughter; 5yrs (~1846); scholar Martha TAYLOR; daughter; 3yrs (~1848); scholar All born Wells, Somerset. All children unmarried. - presumably Frederick, Matilda, Elizabeth (Jnr), Priscilla and Henrietta all left Household or away from home 1841 Census Southover, Wells (last household before start of Silver Street) Robert TAYLOR; 32yrs (~1809); Butcher Elizabeth TAYLOR; 31yrs (~1810) Frederick TAYLOR; 15yrs (~1826) Matilda TAYLOR; 13yrs (~1828) Elizabeth TAYLOR; 10yrs (~1831) Priscilla TAYLOR; 7yrs (~1834) Henrietta TAYLOR; 6yrs (~1835) Sarah TAYLOR; 3yrs (~1838) Charles TAYLOR; 8 months (~1840) Not much luck on the BOYCE family except that they were from Coxley which is just outside Wells, as you presumably already know! To save other Pals work, I did find a false lead in the 1881 Census ... 163 Drummond Street, Somers Town, St Pancras, London Charles TAYLOR; Head; 29yrs; Herbalist; born Bristol, Somerset Lucy Maria TAYLOR; wife; 27yrs; born Bristol, Glos. Francis Chas TAYLOR; son; 1 month; born Middlesex E.G.S. STEVENS; brother-in-law; 17yrs; born Bristol, Glos Got quite excited about this lot as they were exactly in the N central London area that Arthur's SDGW leads point to, also they were married in Bristol in 1879. However this same household appears in the 1901 Census in Mangotsfield, Glos. with Charles as Shopkeeper (Herbal Chemist) so they cannot be the same Charles & Maria as Arthur's parents. There's a remote possibility they may belong to the extended Taylor family and might point to an occasional London connection, but someone will have to do a lot more donkeywork to take that further. HTH Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 25 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2010 OH MY WORD!!!!!!!!!! Mark, how can I thank you? Have a virtual beer or two on me! Ever thankful. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 25 March , 2010 Share Posted 25 March , 2010 There was a Charles William Taylor who was one of the 2 Wells MP's in the late 1780's or thereabouts, connected to Dulcote, I believe.... could this be a connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 26 March , 2010 Share Posted 26 March , 2010 There was a Charles William Taylor who was one of the 2 Wells MP's in the late 1780's or thereabouts, connected to Dulcote, I believe.... could this be a connection? Sorry but getting back just to 1841 was quite effort enough for me! I'll pass the torch to someone else for 1780. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27thBN Posted 26 March , 2010 Share Posted 26 March , 2010 Pals Last time I asked an impossible question and was amazed by the response. So, I have another for you. Again, this is a man who is on the War Memorial but I can't find him in the usual places. The Memorial Book for locals list him as being a private in the London Regiment and living in Wells. Any suggestions as to who he may be would be gratefully valued. Yours in hope, Sue Sue i am going to use your exact format on another impossible question mine usually crash and burn :blink: MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson Posted 26 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2010 It always works for me! Good luck, MC. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 26 March , 2010 Share Posted 26 March , 2010 OH MY WORD!!!!!!!!!! Mark, how can I thank you? Have a virtual beer or two on me! Ever thankful. Sue Sue ... Orson ... Wells - the penny's just dropped! Brilliant! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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