lukerwhite Posted 18 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2010 Have listed the following on the men killed 25th 26th May 1915, full names added and entry dates into the war added.... 25 May 1915 (all of these are listed on CWGC as 1st battalion) pvt GRIGGS John William 8792 - he is listing as missing in the Hereford Times so he too transferred to the 2nd Batt. sgt BIGGS Thomas 5320 - listed as wounded in Hereford times so transferred to the 2nd Batt (must have died of his wounds) pvt NAGINGTON Frank 8123 - he is listing as missing in the Hereford Times so he too transferred to the 2nd Batt. lance corp PHILLIPS John Charles Oliver 10331 - killed in action in the Hereford Times so he too transferred to the 2nd Batt. lance corp WILLIAMS George 6333 - killed in action in the Hereford Times so he too transferred to the 2nd Batt. pvt THOMAS William Ernest 7585 - killed in action in the Hereford Times so he too transferred to the 2nd Batt. 26 May 1915 (listed as 1st Battalion CWGC) sgt THOMPSON Robert 5046 Name John William Griggs Birth Place: Camberwell, London Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: London Rank: Private Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 8792 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War: 21 Dec 1914 Name: Thomas Biggs Birth Place: Knockin, Nr. Oswestry, Salop Residence: Llanfechain, Mont. Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Welshpool Rank: Sergeant Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 5320 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War 12 Nov 1914 Name: Frank Nagington Birth Place: Wellington, Salop Residence: Wellington, Salop Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Shrewsbury Rank: Private Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 8123 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War: 10 Sep 1914 Name: John Charles Oliver Phillips Birth Place: Eastleigh, Southampton Residence: Wandsworth Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: London Rank: L/Corporal Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 10331 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War: 10 Sep 1914 Name: George Williams Birth Place: Hanley, Staff Residence: Burslem Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Hanley Rank: Private Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 6333 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Name: William Ernest Thomas Birth Place: Leominster Death Date: 25 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Hereford Rank: Private Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 7585 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War: 5 May 1915 Name: Robert Thompson Birth Place: Wolverhampton Residence: West Bromwich Death Date: 26 May 1915 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Birmingham Rank: Corporal Regiment: King's (Shropshire Light Infantry) Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 5046 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Entry into War: 10 Sep 1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 18 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2010 MIC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 18 May , 2010 Share Posted 18 May , 2010 Thats great Myrtle, looks more and more like Pte. W.E. Thomas is on the wrong memorial. Also Henry Lea did not make it home, he was killed on 19th April 1917. Annette It does doesn't it. Thanks for posting the detail regarding Henry Lea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 18 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2010 Cant find MIC for Williams! Note, Thomas had only been in France since the 5 May 1915...killed after 20 days action. Also note Thompson was downgraded to a Corporal from a Sergent for misconduct. Hope all this helps! Cheers, Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 19 May , 2010 Share Posted 19 May , 2010 Here's to hoping Luke. I'm off to the library tomorrow. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 20 May , 2010 Share Posted 20 May , 2010 Luke, Nothing in May or June 1915 for F. Nagington. There is a brief mention in the 2nd BN. KSLI casualty list, July 20th 1915. When i get to August i'll let you know. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 20 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2010 Luke, Nothing in May or June 1915 for F. Nagington. There is a brief mention in the 2nd BN. KSLI casualty list, July 20th 1915. When i get to August i'll let you know. Neil Cheers Neil! 2nd Battalion again! I think we have to be 99.2% sure now...crept up another 0.01% with that one! Look forward to hearing from you again. Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 21 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Hello Luke, Found this in 'The Newport & market Drayton Advertiser', dated 10 July 1915, thought it might interest you. Toodleoo Wes. Hi Wes, Managed to get a copy of this newspaper from the library who were very helpful. Will send you a copy. Cheers. Frank Nagington 8123 is listed as missing and with the 2nd Batt KSLI again. Griggs 8792 is also listed as missing on the same list. Unfortunately the paper is cut off so cant see the rest of the names on the list!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 21 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Luke, Nothing in May or June 1915 for F. Nagington. There is a brief mention in the 2nd BN. KSLI casualty list, July 20th 1915. When i get to August i'll let you know. Neil Neil, what paper did you say this was from? By the way i could send a fuller copy of the newspaper article from the 'The Newport & market Drayton Advertiser' (10 July 1915) to you if yow wish. I dont have your personal email. Cheers Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 21 May , 2010 Share Posted 21 May , 2010 These are CWGC Casualties from 25th May to 31st May 1915. Check them against your Lists of Missing and it might provide further clues... 001 BELL W 8824 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 002 BEVAN G 7384 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 003 BIGGS T 5320 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 004 BLACKMORE HH 14909 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 005 CHARLES H 6055 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 006 CLARKE WC 5927 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 007 CLUEIT N 16387 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 008 CUNNINGTON T 15055 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 009 DAVIES E 6387 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 010 DIXON G 6689 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 011 EBREY TH 9441 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 012 EDWARDS WA 8441 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 013 EVANS JH 9068 2ND BN 28/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 014 EVANS WH 7851 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 015 FIELD WH 7497 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 016 FROST TB 6507 2ND BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 017 GRIFFITHS CS 7483 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 018 GRIGGS JW 8792 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 019 HALE WG 7626 X COY 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 020 HANCOX C 5081 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 021 HAYCOCKS J 10706 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 022 HIGGINS AG 11909 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 023 HILL T 7703 2ND BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 024 HINES W 6591 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 025 HOPKINS W 6097 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 026 HULSE JW 7599 1ST BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 027 HUNTER FT 8648 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 028 JONES G 5631 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 029 JONES E 6600 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 030 JONES H 8054 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 031 JONES SHW 11157 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 032 JONES W 6650 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 033 JONES E 9431 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 034 JONES AG 6900 2ND BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 035 KNOWLES JH 15993 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 036 LESTER E 6898 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 037 LEWIS J 9655 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 038 LONGWORTH JT 7021 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 039 MANUEL JA 6644 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 040 MARTIN HJ 16423 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 041 MASON T 6201 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 042 MATHER A 7400 1ST BN 31/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 043 MCGUIRE T 6103 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 044 MEREDITH GF 5719 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 045 MOORE JH 6402 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 046 MORGAN J 7104 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 047 MORRIS J 7997 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 048 NAGINGTON F 8123 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 049 OULD AH 8514 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 050 OWEN G 15052 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 051 OWEN F 5588 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 052 PATTEN G 16022 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 053 PHILLIPS JCO 10331 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 054 PHILLPOTTS A 6899 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 055 PLANT JE 7371 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 056 PRICE C 6440 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 057 PULLING HT 7580 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 058 RALPH J 16739 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 059 RIDGWAY J 6793 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 060 ROSCOE FH 16708 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 061 ROSSER GA 7607 D COY 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 062 ROSTRON J 16403 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 063 SELBY J 6662 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 064 SIMPSON TB 7682 2ND BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 065 SMITH H 5364 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 066 SMITH W 6529 2ND BN 27/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 067 SMITH WT 5932 Y COY 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 068 SPEAR H 5420 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 069 STEVENS P 6204 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 070 STEWARD C - 3RD BN ATTD 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 071 THOMAS WE 7585 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 072 THOMAS WJ 9796 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 073 THOMAS HG 9300 3RD BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 074 THOMPSON AM 5046 1ST BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 075 TREVOR A 6663 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 076 WALL B 5979 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 077 WATKINS G 9589 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 078 WIDDICKS AV 9190 2ND BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY 079 WILLIAMS G 6333 1ST BN 25/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY You also have those who Died of Wounds at the bottom of the newspaper clipping in Post #56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 21 May , 2010 Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Luke, It's from the Wellington Journal and Shrewsbury News. My next visit will be Monday or Tuesday. I've taken over 3,000 images to date. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 21 May , 2010 Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Luke, You might find this of use. Lt. Steward was Killed the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 21 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 May , 2010 These are CWGC Casualties from 25th May to 31st May 1915. Check them against your Lists of Missing and it might provide further clues... Blimey Kevin, I thought Annette had said that there was only 6 people killed on the 25 May 1915 (according to the war diary). She must have been refferring to 1st Batt men who were with the 2nd Batt at the time of death on the 25 May 1915?? I knew about THOMPSON AM 5046 1ST BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY - he was KIA on the 26th I have counted 9 1st batt men on your list, the two new ones i didn't have are HULSE JW 7599 1ST BN 26/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY - he was killed 31st so that is why we didnt have him MATHER A 7400 1ST BN 31/05/1915 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY - he was killed 26th so he wasn't counted. Ao Annette was right, 6 1st batt men Killed on 25 May 1915. Will have to look into these two a bit more to see if these too were with the 2nd batt when killed. Might give an insight into what was going on. Had no idea that there were so many killed from the 2nb batt KSLI on this day so thanks for all that hard graft kevin. Annette wasn't able to check her 2nd batt diary as it hadn't photographed clearly. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 21 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Luke, You might find this of use. Lt. Steward was Killed the same day. Thanks Neil, interesting that Lt. Steward was with the 3rd KSLI but was attatched to the 2nd Batt KSLI. The 2nd Batt must have been short of numbers and other batt men incl. Frank's 1st Batt must have been attatched also. We know that the 1s batt was involved at Armentieres Area on the 25th May 1915 but only had 1 casualty on this date according to Annettes 1st batt war diary so seems like it was quiet at the time. We know the 2nd Batt was at Railway Wood were there was some taking over trenches which then had to be surrendered at quite a cost looking at Kevins list there on his post. Cheers Neil, Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 21 May , 2010 Share Posted 21 May , 2010 A list of KSLI casualties for 25/05/1915 from my database of casualties on Shropshire Memorials Martin, Herbert John. Private, 16423, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Atcham Lewis, James. Private, 9655, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Bridgnorth Thomas, Walter James. Corporal, 9796, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Bridgnorth Lewis, James. Private, 9655, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Bridgnorth St. Mary's Thomas, Walter James. Corporal, 9796, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Bridgnorth St. Mary's Wall, Benjamin. Private, 5979, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Dawley Morris, James. Private, 7997, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Ludlow Spear, Herbert. Serjeant, 5420, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Ludlow Biggs, Thomas. Serjeant, 5320, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Moreton Mason, Thomas. Private, 6201, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Much Wenlock Plant, John Edward. Private, 7371, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Oakengates Trevor, Alfred.. Private, 6663, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Oakengates Plant, John Edward. Private, 7371, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Oakengates Church Trevor, A. Private, 6663, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Oakengates Church Owen, Frederick. Private, 5588, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Oswestry Higgins, Arthur George. Lance Corporal, 11909, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St. Alkmonds Steward, Charles. Second Lieutenant, , King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St. Alkmonds Higgins, Arthur George. Lance Corporal, 11909, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St. Alkmonds RoH Steward, Charles. Second Lieutenant, , King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St. Alkmonds RoH Steward, Charles. Second Lieutenant, , King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St. Mary Manuel, John Alfred. Private, 6644, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St.Chads Moore, John Henry. Private, 6402, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Shrewsbury St.Chads Selby, John. Private, 6662, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. St. Georges Selby, John. Private, 6662, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. St. Georges Church Charles, Herbert. Private, 6055, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Wellington Nagington, Frank. Private, 8123, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Wellington Haycocks, John. Private, 10706, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Whitchurch Lewis, James. Private, 9655, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Worfield Lewis, James. Private, 9655, King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Killed in Action 25/05/1915. Worfield Civic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 21 May , 2010 Share Posted 21 May , 2010 Neil If you have the date of the newspaper in which Lt Steward's obit appeared you will be able to work out the approximate date that he took the draft of men to the 2nd battalion. This draft may have included Pte Nagington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 June 5th 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 June 5th 1915 Draft approximately 8th May 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 Hi Luke Blimey Kevin, I thought Annette had said that there was only 6 people killed on the 25 May 1915 (according to the war diary). Look at post 37 were I state 73 men were killed in the Battle (for Railway Wood) there are three men who I beleive are also listed under incorrect dates as follows 16108 Pte. Till, John, Born Cannock, Staffs. (Durrington) Enlisted Stafford, landed in F/F 19/05/15 joined 2/K.S.L.I. listed as K. in A. 21/05/15 Aged 21. Son of James and Sarah Till, of 46, Tenterbanks, Stafford. His name is on the Menin Gate Memorial. The 2nd Batt. were in billets in Busseboom in 21st, so I am sure this is incorrect date and he is likely to have been killed of 25th-26th. 8985 Pte. Coney, William Henry, Born St. Augustine, Penarth Enlisted Cardiff, Glam. Landed in F/F 21/12/14 with 2/K.S.L.I. listed as K. in A. 23/05/15 Aged 26. Son of Mr. and Mrs T. H. Coney, of 12, Maughan St, Penarth, Cardiff. His name is on the Menin Gate Memorial. The 2nd Batt. were still in billets in Busseboom in 23rd so I am sure this is incorrect date and he is likely to have been killed of 25th-26th. 9068 A/Sgt. Evans, James Henry, Born Rodington, Shrops. Enlisted Shrewsbury, landed in F/F 21/12/14 with 2/K.S.L.I. listed as K. in A. 28/05/15 His name is on the Menin Gate Memorial. The 2nd Batt. had retured to billets in Busseboom by the 27th, so I am sure this is incorrect date and he is likely to have been killed of 25th-26th. I do not mention the number of officers killed in my post (37)which was two killed & six wounded Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 Also Luke it does not make any differance how many papers record that they were killed with the 2nd Battalion, it could be recorded in a hundred papers or just one, they all got their info. from the Army Records/Minersty of defence. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 Thanks Neil, interesting that Lt. Steward was with the 3rd KSLI but was attatched to the 2nd Batt KSLI. The 2nd Batt must have been short of numbers To answer this Q-the 2nd Batt. had been in action since the gas attack it saw heavy fighting on 25th & 26th April north of Broodseinde. Next they were in action on the Bellewaarde Ridge, opposite Westhoek on the 4th & 5th May. On the 8th May they were in heavy fighting between top of ridge and lake and by nightfall held line from Bellewaarde Farm to the railway, more heavy fighting followed on the 9th & 10th. The Battalion’s loses were replaced by three drafts of 97 other ranks + Lt.’s J.S.H. Beamish and J.C.F. Lister on 13th May and 130 other ranks on 16th May & 130 other ranks & Lt.’s H.A. Robinson and R.B.L. Persse on 21st May. Captain D. Leslie joined on 23rd May. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 22 May , 2010 Share Posted 22 May , 2010 The following two in Kevin's list were not killed with the 2nd Batt. as both are buried in Uk 7104 Pte. Morgan, John, D. of W. 25/05/15 Buried in St. Micheals churchyard Walford-on-Wye 9300 Pte. Thomas, Harold George, Died 26/05/15 Buried in Pembroke Dock Military Cemetery. Not sure if the following two either would have been wounded on 25th/26th due to time scale ? 7599 Pte. Hulse, John William, Died 26/05/15 Buried in Wimereux Communal Cemetery 7682 Pte. Simpson, Thomas Bishop, D. of W. 26/05/15 Buried in Boulogne Eastern Cemetery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 22 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2010 Cheers Annette, It can be very confusing for a military novice like myself to follow all the info on the post. Especially when there are so many mistakes and mis informstion from what you would have thought are reliable sources. It really does make it a difficult task doesn't it? You cant really take anything for granted it seems. The dates especially are definately very inaccurate it seems. Thanks for taking the time in pointing this out, Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 23 May , 2010 Share Posted 23 May , 2010 Hi Luke Especially when there are so many mistakes and mis informstion from what you would have thought are reliable sources. It really does make it a difficult task doesn't it? Too right, when I first started researching some 22 years ago I used to get very pissed off when sources did not match or I know dates were incorrect but after a time I got use to the fact that documents have mistakes in them, and it's no wonder, if a battalion as been in a big fight over days, with many officers dead, wounded or just plain worn out then mistakes in forms can take place. Also mistakes at records offices can be made because of the very large work loads they had to deal with, one chaps papers had three different attestment dates which I have put down to typing errors. There are times when you never really know the true facts and I have to reley on my 22 years experance to give me as close a picture as possible as to what happoned, as is the case of Frank, I do not think we'll ever know for sure if he died with the 2nd Batt. but from gut feeling based on all the little bits and bobs we can say its very likely that he was killed with the 2nd Batt. Annette PS if you ever do find a source that proves the above I would be greatful to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwhite Posted 27 May , 2010 Author Share Posted 27 May , 2010 Draft approximately 8th May 1915 Hi Myrtle, I forgot to ask...how did you work out that the draft may have been on this date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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