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Medal identification required


mattgibbs

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This photo was taken on the Isle of Wight at C G Hayward studio. I wonder if anyone can ID the medal?

There is a naval white topped cap with a shipping line's badge on it also.

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Peter;

Many thanks. I thought of Belgium or Holland based on a quick squint at ebay, but didn't find the right ribbon so far.

I will browse the site you mentioned.

Could it perhaps be the Order of Orange Nassau?

thanks

Matt

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It might be in the London Gazette, if you share the name (as you have to apply for permission to wear from the sovereign).

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Hello Phil;

Alas, I wish I could share the name, but nothing is written on the back except the photo studio.

I was rather hoping to be able to ID the shipping line and the medal and then try some LG look-ups. I am guessing there will not be too many clergymen with such an award.

Regards

Matt

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He may also be in Crockford's, the clerical directory. But not knowing a name would rather make it a needle in a haystack job...

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Phil;

Great idea. I had thought about this with my 1948 copy but mused he could easily have passed on due to old age by then. I recalled the directory being on Ancestry, and with a little bit of searching I've found only 1 chaplain who was awarded the Order of Orange-Nassau, an RN Chaplain and spent some time living on the Isle of Wight. I think his name is a likely candidate!

Revd. Edgar William Greenshield. He was curate at St John the Baptist Church at Carisbrooke IOW and an RN Chaplain 1916 - 1920. Awarded the order in 1911. At this time he was with the Church Missionary Society at Blacklead Island, an anglican mission and whaling station.

thanks

Matt

**edit** It IS him. Amazingly I typed the name in Google and it came up with another pic of him. I can't believe it! http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/stalbansrcchurch/php80iiI8

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The forum shoots... scores... result! :D

Mind you, you wonder why an English/British chaplain, serving on a remote Canadian whaling station got an award from the Dutch?

1. I know Canada wasn't strictly independent in 1911

2. Perhaps there's someone out there with a PhD in Whaling Studies who can suggest!

EDIT: And there's your answer... ->

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Certainly! Thanks guys.

The reason for the order is in a book called From Sea to Sea which covers the mission chaplains and mentions:

This year, 1911, the

Queen of Holland conferred upon the Rev. E. W.

T. Greenshield the Order of Orange-Nassau, as a

mark of appreciation of the services rendered to

the crew of a Dutch schooner wrecked in the

Arctic in 1909, and placed a sum of 200 guilders

at his disposal " in order to enable him to reward,

in such manner as he may deem appropriate, the

Eskimo who assisted him in feeding the said crew."

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There might be a Foreign Office file with correspondence relating to the incident and the awarding of the medal, but you'll have to go to Kew for that.

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Probably-but there is also a Dutch medals forum with O- ODN experts on it. The cites for the order are all still around and accessible in the Hague.

Stijn David may be able to help. He's on GMIC. once in a while. I'll contact him.

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  • 7 months later...

A while ago now, but I wondered if anyone had contatct details for someone who can access the Order of Orange Nassau citations?

thanks

Matt

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