Chris Posted 1 November , 2009 Share Posted 1 November , 2009 When trying to trace whether some German soldiers involved in a battle had died after being captured i found that the CWGC database only holds details in its database of the name and date of death of the German soldiers buried in CWGC cemteries. Yet on the gravestone when you visit the cemetery the details on the headstone's of German graves often mention the individuals unit and rank. From this point further details can then be gleaned from the Volksbund database and German casualty lists. I am with the help of Ralph Whitehead and other kind forum members hoping to pull this information together so that a database will become available for us all to use that will give full details of Germans that are buried in CWGC cemeteries. I am asking the kind help of any forum members who happen to visit CWGC cemeteries in France, Belgium or the UK, if they do have any spare time on their visit to jot down details on German headstones of name, date of death and most importantly unit and rank if available. If they can then add these deatils onto this thread (or if mods desire please move to a more suitable area), then i can add them into the excel sheets. Obviously please do not go out of your way but if you can forward any information from headstones it would be much appreciated. I will keep the thread updated with cemeteries that have been completed. Any help appreciated Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 1 November , 2009 Admin Share Posted 1 November , 2009 Chris A few to get you going Rue Des Berceaux Karl Schulz 6/RJ R 84 9-4-18 Walter Meyer 8/RJ R84 12-4-18 St Vaast Post Bruno Nitschke 8 /RJ R205 10-4-18 Wartmann 1-7-18 Rudolf Lehnert JN??? T R25 ??-??-18 Willy Krohm 1 MGK/RJ R86 13-4-18 Hieronymus Geske 2 MGK/JR R46 26-4-18 Heinrich Hollje 4/JR R117 26-4-18 Johann Huber 1RJ R205 10-4-18 Franz Tulkowske MW KP 119 No date Alfred Baumbach 4/LDW Fuss AR 66 30-4-18 Johann Niewolak 6/Fuss AR 27 2-5-18 Franz Kaminski MK5 Fuss AR 27 2-5-18 Christian Krekel MK5 Fuss AR 27 2-5-18 August Erding MK5 Fuss AR 27 2-5-18 Max Ruhl 4/Pion 3TM 9-7-19 Ernst Scheffler 4/JR R46 6-5-18 Stanislaus Stanislawski 1JR 46 3-5-18 Robert Tauchert 2JR 46 3-5-18 Alfred Renne? 1JR 46 2-5-18 Karl Grenda 1JR 46 30-4-18 Ernst Otto 1JR 46 30-10-18 Edwin Stebner 4JR 46 30-4-18 Fritz Schafer 2JR 46 1-5-18 Emil Haupt 2JR 46 1-5-18 Hermann Sedenfaden 2JR 46 4(?)-5-18 Fritz Aust 2JR 46 ?-5-18 Paul Leonhardt 6JR R205 22-4-18 Paul Nitschke 6JR R205 26-4-18 Momme Paulsen 8 RJ R86 ?-4-18 Oskar Boll Nachr-KP/JR 469 17-4-18 Kurt Haupts ? 8JR R2?5 21-4-18 Fritz Kabitzky 8/RFA R44 ?-4-18 Walter Jaap 1Pion (?) R208 14-4-18 Franz Buche R?ON ?R88 15-4-18 Hermann Fick 8RJ R205 15-4-18 Kaspar Schmid 8RJ E3 16-4-18 William Stahl 6JR R471 17-4-18 Artur Funk 4JR 466 15-4-18 Bruno Meis(?)er 4JR 471 17-4-18 Franz Van Den Herz 2MGK/RJ R208 16-4-18 Albert faber 9/JR 466 21-4-18 Johann Urbiks 4/RFA R44 21-4-18 Otto Kretz MWK/JR 470 20-4-18 Karl Kraft 3 MGK/JR457 20-4-18 Ernest Wedemann 3/JR 467 19-4-18 Johann Siewek Pion KP 370 19-4-18 Peter Kummel 8/JR 466 19-4-18 Emil Knapp 4/JR 469 18-4-18 Emil Ekerlin Nachr KP/JR 470 18-4-18 Wilhelm Blatz 11/JR 469 18-4-18 Andreas Zink 1MGK/JR 470 18-4-18 Christian Bauerle 10/JR 469 18-4-18 Johann Luhrs 10/RJ R 86 18-4-18 Anton Pfaender 2 MGK/Bayer RJR1 18-4-18 Ignatz Esseberg (??_ 3 MGK/S(?)R 471 17-4-18 Franz Kimmritz 3 MGK/RJR 206 16-4-18 Aug Nortmann 6JR471 17-4-18 Mulfort 27-7-16 Le Touret Wilhelm Witt 7/JR 172 Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Woodger Posted 2 November , 2009 Share Posted 2 November , 2009 Chris The 7 in Serre 2 are 2 Unknown Soldat 1 Unknown Krieger Karl Angel MGK/LEHR-J-R 14/07/1916 plus 1 Unknown Krieger 1 Unknown Krieger 1 Unknown Krieger Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted 2 November , 2009 Author Share Posted 2 November , 2009 Hi Glen and Peter Many thanks for the information. A nice start to the project. Thank you Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 3 November , 2009 Share Posted 3 November , 2009 (edited) Kemmel no. 1 French Cemetery (shared grave): Emil Schaefer RIR 238 14-05-1918 Unteroffizier Florus Lorenz 27-05-1918 IR 153 Roel Edited 13 January , 2017 by roel22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apanderson Posted 3 November , 2009 Share Posted 3 November , 2009 Chris, When you say 'CWGC' cemeteries - does that mean you're not interested in stones from Municipal Cemeteries. (I'm talking about Central Scotland where I know of one German stone at least). Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 3 November , 2009 Admin Share Posted 3 November , 2009 Chris, When you say 'CWGC' cemeteries - does that mean you're not interested in stones from Municipal Cemeteries. (I'm talking about Central Scotland where I know of one German stone at least). Anne Anne Speaking from a personal point of view and nothing to do with Chris' team, I'd rather have the information and find out it is already covered than not have it and miss something possibly important so I'd post it. As I said though, it is for Chris and Team to decide. Chris, let me know if you want photographs of the men I listed. Also, where would I find casualty lists covering the 1st and 8th Bavarian Reserve Divisions for 9-11 April 1918? Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk gently Posted 3 November , 2009 Share Posted 3 November , 2009 When trying to trace whether some German soldiers involved in a battle had died after being captured i found that the CWGC database only holds details in its database of the name and date of death of the German soldiers buried in CWGC cemteries. Yet on the gravestone when you visit the cemetery the details on the headstone's of German graves often mention the individuals unit and rank. From this point further details can then be gleaned from the Volksbund database and German casualty lists. I am with the help of Ralph Whitehead and other kind forum members hoping to pull this information together so that a database will become available for us all to use that will give full details of Germans that are buried in CWGC cemeteries. I am asking the kind help of any forum members who happen to visit CWGC cemeteries in France, Belgium or the UK, if they do have any spare time on their visit to jot down details on German headstones of name, date of death and most importantly unit and rank if available. If they can then add these deatils onto this thread (or if mods desire please move to a more suitable area), then i can add them into the excel sheets. Obviously please do not go out of your way but if you can forward any information from headstones it would be much appreciated. I will keep the thread updated with cemeteries that have been completed. Any help appreciated Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk gently Posted 3 November , 2009 Share Posted 3 November , 2009 hi have you tried asking the War Grave Photographic project if they can assist in any way? I am sure that the project will be able to say if the information you seek has been collected yet / they are photographing the graves as well sorry if already know this information , new to forum so still bumbling around in the dark at present . hope you find the info you need soon hitchiker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoj22 Posted 3 November , 2009 Share Posted 3 November , 2009 Hello Chris, here's one at Dernancourt Communal Cemetery Extension I happen to have a photo of: Hermann Hess 1-/J-R-114 +26-03-18 hope it helps, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted 3 November , 2009 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2009 Hitchhiker Thanks for the suggestion. I will get in touch with them as although they do not list the unit details on the online search they have photographed (as you say) the gravestones and on many of them the unit details will be useful. Glen Appreciate the offer of the photos but the info you posted earlier should be fine unless we come up against a ? and want to double check. Thanks. Regarding the casualty lists i will check with someone who knows far more than me and get back to you. Anne Yes please forward any details you have so as Glen points out see all available info. Thnaks to you all Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apanderson Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Here's the (lack of) details for 2 men listed on the same stone in Glasgow Western Necropolis: WILLY FELD, 25.8.1917 ERICH JAGUSCH, 28.8.1917 According to the CWGC database, there are 2 German Graves within the cemetery, but I never found another stone, so presumably it's one grave, shared by these two men. Photo of stone here: Scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=4015&mforum=scottishwargraves#4015 (Page 49) Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritz Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 This two graves are in Vlamertinghe Military Cemetery. Leutnant Willy Sasse and Musketier Friedrich Pieper died in the same action, when they had a raid against British lines near Verlorenhoek (Ypres). In the same cemetery as the British soldiers who were killed by their party. Fritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritz Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 The grave of Friedrich Pieper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Hi Bard Cottage Cemetery -Boezinge Sanitäts Unteroffizier Aug. Holzer 4/RIR 239, +3/4/1916 Gefreiter Kornelius GATZ, 4/RIR 239 , +3/4/1916 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Poperinge - Old Military Cemetery Rud Naumann, +27/1/1915 Joh. Wermes, from Resrve Jäger Bataillon 25 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Poperinge - New Military Cemetery leutnant der Reserve Cäsar OHSE, +20/5/1918 F.A.R. 241 Cnock Reningelst - New Militay Cemetery Unteroffizier Maxim KLATT, +11/8/1917 RIR 213 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Vlamertinge New Military Cemetery E. BALLHORN, +18/7/1917 IR 449 Chester Farm Cemetery -Zillebeke Pionier Hugo Veit, +13/12/1916 Pionier Mineur Kompagnie 324 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Ploegsteert - Berks Cemetery Sergeant Georg FUCHS, +4/1/1917 5th Bavarian IR Ploegsteert - Prowse Point Cem Vizefeldwebel Wilhelm Klemmer, +10/4/1918 IR 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Ieper - Wieltje Farm Cem Unteroffizier O. HOFMEISTER, +22/9/1917 RIR 91 Wieltje - Oxford Road Cem Otto Heinze, +4/10/1917 IR92 Franz BERLIN, 5/10/1917 IR92 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 November , 2009 Share Posted 4 November , 2009 Ploegsteert - London Rifle Brigade Cem Edm. SIEGMANN, +7/5/1918 IR 113 Willy GORSKI, +9/5/1918 FAR 31 Feldwebel Josef SCHLOSSER, +14/4/1918 IR 363 Fähnrich Willi JACOB, 6/5/1918 IR 72 Motor Car Corner Cem Vizefeldwebel O. GAERTNER, +26/6/1918 IR 56 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 5 November , 2009 Share Posted 5 November , 2009 Solferino Farm Cem - Brielen Leutnant Karl SCHULZ, +28/11917 FSA Bataillon 407 Jos. MÜLLER, +27/10/1917 IR 466 Regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 5 November , 2009 Share Posted 5 November , 2009 Torreken Farm Cem - Wijtschate IR 393, +10/4/1918 : Karl DATOW B. GOLDMANN Andr. KELLNER M. GRUNOW Ernst FELDHEIM Max SCHÖPEL, Grenadier RGt 9, +26/4/1918 Gustav RÜTH, Lehr Inf. Rgt, +1/5/1918 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 5 November , 2009 Share Posted 5 November , 2009 Poperinge - Gwalia Cemetery Mart. Lindner , Heinrich HAIN : Bavarian 7th Infantry Rgt Erich TIETZE : IR 455 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 5 November , 2009 Share Posted 5 November , 2009 Voormezele Enclosures 1& 2 Military Cemetery Vizefeldwebel Georg PRÜFER, +15/8/1917 IR 62 IR 457 : Vizefeldwebel A. BLANKENAGEL Karl KAISER Alfred HENKEL Voormezele Ridgewood Cem Willy GIERKE, +16/7/1916 RIR 214 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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