welshdoc Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 21162 W Moores East lancashire 6410 Lancashire fusiliers appears on soldiers died but I cant for the life of me even using Geoffs (soon to die) search engine find him on CWGC . His Mic shows no sign of his fate . There is no service record in Ancestry. Was he a casualty? Gareth Name: Walter Moores Birth Place: Hulme, Lancs Residence: Manchester Death Date: 7 Jul 1916 Enlistment Location: Clayton, Lancs Rank: Private Regiment: East Lancashire Regiment Battalion: 2nd Battalion. Number: 21162 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Aldershot Comments: Formerly 6410, Lancs Fus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 MOORES is a case in hand with IFCP. His case went forward on 25.07.09 with a decision awaited. Also, note that the 'Theatre of War' field on Ancestry's SDGW is total nonsense with most reading 'Aldershot'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apwright Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 He should already be in the In From The Cold Project pipeline, as I couldn't find him either when going through a GRO batch back in July. He's listed in GRO War Deaths with reference 1916, I.15 217. Maybe Terry can confirm whether his case has been submitted? Adrian EDIT: Aha, speak of the devil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 Bloody dangerous place Aldershot - I can testify to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 29 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 29 September , 2009 If he was KIA with 2nd East Lancs he would likely be on Theipval so does anyone have a pic of Pier and face 6? If he was with the Lanc fusiliers( 10th Btn?) Face 3C and D are possibles. So anyone photographed these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 He won't be on Thiepval as he's missing from CWGC records. Once the submission is approved, his name will get added to an addenda panel in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 29 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 29 September , 2009 Ah so its possible hes a fully non comm, rather than simply missed out of the CWGC online records?. If thats the case why does SDGW have him? I thought (waiting to be shot down in flames), that SDGW was based on the CWGC details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 29 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 29 September , 2009 I thought, as he was on Soldiers died he was simply missed out of the CWGC online records? I thought (waiting to be shot down in flames), that SDGW was in the main based on the CWGC details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 29 September , 2009 Share Posted 29 September , 2009 SDGW has nothing to do with CWGC. Totally different collection of data produced by each regiment of the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 30 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September , 2009 Thank you Terry, do you have any idea how the regiments compiled their lists as sometimes there is some variance between the details on the soldiers attestation papers in the service files and MICs compared with that published on the soldiers died database. In particuler did the regiments obtain extra information from the next of kin . gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 30 September , 2009 Share Posted 30 September , 2009 Gareth I don't have a specific idea but I suspect each unit did it in its own way using their own records. I doubt that they contacted NoK. CWGC did try to contact all next of kin and they did obtain additional info which does not appear on SDGW - age, NoK details etc. The SDGW info looks like it comes from attestation papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 30 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September , 2009 Thanks Terry, carry on the good work.Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 21 January , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2010 To update thanks to the in from the cold team MOORES, WALTER Initials: W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 33 Date of Death: 07/07/1916 Service No: 21162 N.B.: This casualty has recently been accepted for commemoration by the Commission. However, it will not be possible to add his name to this Memorial immediately. Please contact the Commission before planning a visit, for more information. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Addenda Panel Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 21 January , 2010 Share Posted 21 January , 2010 .....using Geoffs (soon to die) search engine Please explain the "soon to die" Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 21 January , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2010 "soon to die " reference was to changes made to the CWGC website which made the links of all websites inoperable. After a howling response from most researches the changes were cancelled until further notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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