Terry Denham Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database on Thursday 24th September Pte Henry James HENDERS 4503 9th Bn, Australian Infantry Died 07.03.18 Age 22 Buried: Toowong Cemetery, Qld, Australia Pte Raymond Norwood SMITHERS 2445 2/17th Bn, London Regiment Died 15.11.15 Age 18 Buried: Rayleigh Cemetery, Essex, UK NOT FORGOTTEN Pte Henders is an In From the Cold Project case. In fact, he is the first casualty ‘brought in’ from our Australian section which is cross-checking all names on the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. Pte Henders was discharged with tuberculosis and died three weeks later. (Volunteer: Andy Massard) Pte Smithers was put forward on 20.02.09 on behalf of John Baker. I don’t believe John is a member of GWF. Pte Smithers was discharged from the army due to ill health and died a few months later with heart disease and syncope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 Well done, Terry!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 May they both Rest in Peace Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messina1915 Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 Rest in Peace Henry and Raymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speake Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 Rest in Peace Henry and Raymond A question (forgive my ignorance): How and why are names added to the roll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 24 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 24 September , 2009 These are names of men who died who qualify for war grave status and commemoration by CWGC. However, for various reasons their names were omitted from the roll of casualties and so have no official commemoration. When such names are discovered, they can be added to the roll (the Debt of Honour maintained by CWGC) after the provision of the appropriate evidence. The deciding authority is the MoD for the UK and similar departments in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and India. For a fuller explanation, see here www.infromthecold.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speake Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 These are names of men who died who qualify for war grave status and commemoration by CWGC. However, for various reasons their names were omitted from the roll of casualties and so have no official commemoration. When such names are discovered, they can be added to the roll (the Debt of Honour maintained by CWGC) after the provision of the appropriate evidence. The deciding authority is the MoD for the UK and similar departments in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and India. For a fuller explanation, see here www.infromthecold.org. Another related question: Do you know the criteria for replacing a CWGC headstone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 24 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 24 September , 2009 It will depend on many factors - wear etc. CWGC constantly monitors headstones and fits those needing replacement into a schedule. Usually, re-engraving takes place first which can add another fifty years or more life to a stone. What you think needs replacement may not necessarily agree with their criteria. If you are worried about a particular stone, email the appropriate Area Office about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speake Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 It will depend on many factors - wear etc. CWGC constantly monitors headstones and fits those needing replacement into a schedule. Usually, re-engraving takes place first which can add another fifty years or more life to a stone. What you think needs replacement may not necessarily agree with their criteria. If you are worried about a particular stone, email the appropriate Area Office about it. Sorry to keep asking questions: I have seen a few here in Toronto that are not in great shape and they appear to have been made of different stone. Is there one variety of stone used or is it up to the area office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 24 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 24 September , 2009 There are over sixty types of stone that have been used worldwide. Many of those in Canada are of various types of granite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River97 Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database on Thursday 24th September Pte Henry James HENDERS 4503 9th Bn, Australian Infantry Died 07.03.18 Age 22 Buried: Toowong Cemetery, Qld, Australia NOT FORGOTTEN Pte Henders is an In From the Cold Project case. In fact, he is the first casualty ‘brought in’ from our Australian section which is cross-checking all names on the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. Pte Henders was discharged with tuberculosis and died three weeks later. (Volunteer: Andy Massard) OMG!!!!!! Got one already. That's just awesome. Henry has just made those long and boring hour's all worth while. Rest in peace soldier boy, Gone and no longer forgotten. Cheers Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River97 Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database on Thursday 24th September Pte Raymond Norwood SMITHERS 2445 2/17th Bn, London Regiment Died 15.11.15 Age 18 Buried: Rayleigh Cemetery, Essex, UK NOT FORGOTTEN Pte Smithers was put forward on 20.02.09 on behalf of John Baker. I don’t believe John is a member of GWF. Pte Smithers was discharged from the army due to ill health and died a few months later with heart disease and syncope. It's also uncanny. I have just finished writing a manuscript memorial history of the 60th London Division from the diary of my Great grand Pa (see signature) Raymond, rest in peace soldier boy Gone and no longer forgotten, Cheers Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melliget Posted 24 September , 2009 Share Posted 24 September , 2009 CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database on Thursday 24th September Pte Henry James HENDERS 4503 9th Bn, Australian Infantry Died 07.03.18 Age 22 Buried: Toowong Cemetery, Qld, Australia (Volunteer: Andy Massard) Well done, Andy. I used to live near Toowong and wandered around the cemetery several times. A nice spot to rest. Rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 25 September , 2009 Share Posted 25 September , 2009 May They Rest In Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 25 September , 2009 Share Posted 25 September , 2009 Never Forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 25 September , 2009 Share Posted 25 September , 2009 Raising a glass to the memory of Henry & Raymond. Raising another to the efforts of Andy & John for making it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690philip Posted 25 September , 2009 Share Posted 25 September , 2009 Well done to Terry and the team. Lest We Forget. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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