sabine72 Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 hello, the husband bought an essex uniform and now he would like to find out what medals this man had. hope some one can help him. kind regards sabine nicer image of the ribbons nicer image of the ribbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 Possibly (from left): DCM, Queen's South Africa, King's South Africa, 14 (or 14-15) Star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 I agree with Stephen the medals being The Distinguished Conduct Medal, Queens and Kings South Africa medals and the 1914 or possible 14/15 Star. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 20 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 20 September , 2009 steven and rob, thank you so he was in the boerwar then? first and last are ww1 does any one have pictures of the medals? the husband wants to buy then too. kind regards sabine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 The Kings South Africa Medal 1901-1902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 From the fixing there was at least 2 possibly 3 more medals below that row. so BWM and Victory and ? +1 other The star ribbon is round the wrong way should be red white blue - which given his service suprises me. So possibly a made up bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 And The Queens South African Medal All the best Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 This is set of Miniature Medals. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 What does the fixing look like - I'm not convinced. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 20 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 20 September , 2009 Mick, what do you mean by fixing? Gary, thank you for the pictures. would it mean he got the dcm during the boer war? we were wondering where his other ribbons are, he only had the 1914 what about the rest, he also had a wounded stripe maybe he didn't go back after he got wounded? kind regards sabine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 How is the medal bar fixed to the tunic? is it stitched or is it a pin? the one below looks like it would have been tacked with a couple of stitches, which would have been the correct method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 would it mean he got the DCM during the boer war? ...Not necessarily so,he may well have earned the DCM in the Great War & been commissioned afterwards[or as a result of his DCM] He would have only worn the Star on its own initially as the BWM & Victory would have come along later. The Brooch bar is unusual as "normally" they would most probably have been sewn directly to the tunic above the Breast Pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 It could have been the Boer war and it would have been easier to narrow down because there were only 13 DCM's awarded to the Essex regt during that conflict. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 20 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 20 September , 2009 the ribbons are stitched on a pin, all the same stitching, yellow green color, looks old kind regards sabine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 Don't forget he may not have been with the Essex Regiment in the Boer War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 True enough this is the medal setup unless there was another afre the Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 20 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 20 September , 2009 Mick so you think it is genuine exept for the mixup with the Mons star Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 20 September , 2009 Share Posted 20 September , 2009 Don't know. What I am saying is that there should be 2 rows of medals but it would be very easy to add medal ribbons to enhance the uniform. I think that if he served post-war I would be surprised that the star ribbon would be back to front - certainly at that time medals meant a lot, they were the story of a mans career and they would have been looked at by everyone including his CO and RSM. mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 21 September , 2009 Share Posted 21 September , 2009 I find it surprising that the Star ribbon is the one showing the most wear, unless it snagged on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 22 September , 2009 Share Posted 22 September , 2009 Couldnt the medals have been pinned to the tunic. The 4 medal bar I have has a swivel pin about 3 inches long, pinning the lot to the tunic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 22 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 22 September , 2009 David That is the same pin I have and the jacket is dated 1918 Kind regards Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 22 September , 2009 Share Posted 22 September , 2009 Yes but the pin should go though sewn loops, not directly through the material of the jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabine72 Posted 22 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 22 September , 2009 Mick Thank you for the information and i think i will get the pin of the uniform so it will be more correct. I've just wanted the jacket Kind regards Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 22 September , 2009 Share Posted 22 September , 2009 Where I'm concerned is that British Army officers never wear pin on medal bars on service dress - except perhaps tropical dress (and this isn't). Ribbons are stitched around a stiffener and then sewn directly to the uniform. Often loops are stitched above these to allow the wearing of the full size medals. And Army practice is to have least on top, most on bottom. Maximum of five ribbons in a row, so in this case it should be (with the full group) DCM centre, top row, alone. QSA, KSA, Trio on bottom row. (one over four, NEVER three over two) Prior to the BWM/VM, yes, a straight row of 4. But they should be sewn directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 23 September , 2009 Share Posted 23 September , 2009 Mick, I cant argue with you either way on that point, the bar that I have is just a bar and long pin which could have been attached in more than one way and I am quite happy to accept that it could have been through loops. Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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