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Fromelles Item on BBC Radio 4 PM


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Driving home from work today was pleasantly surprised to hear a very detailed and informative item on the BBC Radio 4 PM radio programme.

In case you missed it it can for the next seven days be replayed on line.

The item was 48 minutes 40 seconds into the show so no need to listen to the preceding items, just fast forward on the slider.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qskw

They also mentioned an announcement that about 250-300 remains will be found

Richard

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It’s an interesting article, but what a pity that this information couldn’t have been released via the official route.

V.

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Thanks for posting!

Driving home from work today was pleasantly surprised to hear a very detailed and informative item on the BBC Radio 4 PM radio programme.

In case you missed it it can for the next seven days be replayed on line.

The item was 48 minutes 40 seconds into the show so no need to listen to the preceding items, just fast forward on the slider.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qskw

They also mentioned an announcement that about 250-300 remains will be found

Richard

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Thursday, 16 July 2009

023/2009

UPDATE ON PROGRESS AT FROMELLES

Greg Combet, Minister for Defence Personnel, Materiel and Science, today announced that the project to recover and re-inter Australian and British World War One soldiers discovered in France remains on track.

Over 100 sets of remains have now been retrieved and the original estimate that the site held up to 400 soldiers has now been revised to approximately 300.

The archaeological excavation operation at Pheasant Wood in Fromelles began in May 2009 and is due to be completed in September 2009.

Four of the eight burial pits have been fully excavated and the team from Oxford Archaeology have commenced work on two of the remaining four.

"These soldiers are being treated with the utmost care so that we ensure that their sacrifice is being honoured in the process," said Mr Combet.

"In addition to the recovery of remains, methodical and thorough analysis of artefacts buried with them will assist in the possibility of identification of the soldiers who died 93 years ago.

"Many items are being found with the soldiers that indicate the force in which they served but identification of individuals will rely on a combination of anthropological, archaeological, historical and other scientific data."

Mr Combet is anticipating results of a pilot study to sample DNA from the remains by the end of July.

"I am hopeful that a successful result will be returned and DNA matching with living descendants can assist in the identification process."

If people believe that they are relatives of a soldier who died at the Battle of Fromelles, they are encouraged to contact the Australian Army on (free call) 1800 019 090, or visit www.army.gov.au/fromelles to register their interest.

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Can someone please remind of who was the spokesperson and who spoke about the sampling during this interview.

Many thanks

Bright Blessings

Sandra

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Sandra

I cannot be one hundred per cent certain but I think that the individual who was interviewed about DNA was James Walker of LGC Forensics.

He spoke less about the techniques of recovering DNA samples and more about the complications that have been created by the passage of 90+ years and the need to seek relatives that, in many instances, are generations removed from the soldiers, who are descendant relatives of the soldiers' siblings and their parents.

Are you concerned that the report on the sample tests promised for the end of July has been delayed?

There certainly appears to be some spin going on in the background as per a recent posting on the CWG's Fromelles website about the unfavourable conditions in some of the pits regarding the intrusion of tree roots and water retention not being conducive to the preservation of DNA.

I think that the egregious creatures involved in PR call this kind of exercise 'expectation management'.

Mel

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Thanks Mel ;)

Bright Blessings

Sandra

PS:

And ... I have come to expect 'anything' coming out of the background that does little to honour these men.

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