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Information requested on ships.


KAYJAY

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Hi Guys,

Can anyone help with some ships that men I am interested in were lost while serving on. These are the dates the men were reported lost on, so perhaps the date the ship was lost or in action on.

S.S. Adriatic 31/10/16, S.S.Opal 18/12/16, S.S. Vedamore 07/02/17, S.S. Sallagh 10/02/17, and H.M.M.L. No. 212 20/02/17.

Thanks Ken.

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Ken

s.s. Adriatic Built 1904 by Irvine's S.B. & D.D. Co. Owned by W H Cockerline & Co. 3,028 t. Employed as an Admiralty collier. Left Newport, Mon on 21 Oct 1916 for Marseilles with cargo of coal but was not seen again.

s.s. Opal Built by Scott & Sons 1894. Owned by W Robertson. 599t

On 18 Dec 1916 struck a mine and sank off Isle of Man. The Captain and crew of 11 were killed.

Tony

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Ken

Vedamore - defensively armed merchant ship 6330 tons - torpedoed by submarine - no warning given- 20 miles West from Fastnet 23 lives lost

Sallagh - 325 tons - Off Bardsey Island - Captured by submarine - attacked with bombs - 1 life lost

As far as I can make out HMML212 was not lost during WW1

Steve

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the Information about the Vedamore & Sallagh.

Regarding the HMML 212 the man I am interested in (Deck Hand 3611 S.D. Robert Mackay K.I.A. 20/02/1917) is commemorated on the Portsmouth Memorial

so he must have been lost at sea even if his ship was not lost.

Regards Ken.

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The following MLs were war losses according to the 1919 Jane's:

M.L. 566, 561, 541, 540, 534, 474, 431, 424, 421, 403, 356, 278, 255, 254, 253. 247, 230, 197 191, 149, 121, 110, 64, 62, 55, 52 40, 19 18.

No 212 there; I think the only other was lost by accident (explosion) in Germany c.1919/20

Richard

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(Deck Hand 3611 S.D. Robert Mackay K.I.A. 20/02/1917) is commemorated on the Portsmouth Memorial

so he must have been lost at sea even if his ship was not lost.

Regards Ken.

Hi Ken

If HMML212 was attacked he could have been killed but the ship survived. There is however the alternative that he could have been lost overboard or indeed died aboard from illness or accident and then buried at sea, hence no known grave. It may be a good idea to try looking at the local newspapers for Tongue, Sutherlandshire from February/March 1917 for information.

Steve

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