ph0ebus Posted 18 June , 2009 Share Posted 18 June , 2009 Hi all, I am in the process of scanning ship postcards from my grandmother's scrapbook, which spans (I think) 1900-1920. Can you ID this ship? Apologies for the blurriness of the aft portion, they are glued in and the book is difficult to fit on the scanner. I will start a separate thread with the other scanned cards that are Great War-related. Thanks, -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 18 June , 2009 Share Posted 18 June , 2009 The funnel colurs certainly look like the CNR. In 1914 its ships were called in for military transportation; two years later the fleet, then five ships in all, were bought by Cunard. mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 18 June , 2009 Share Posted 18 June , 2009 Royal Edward methinks. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 18 June , 2009 Share Posted 18 June , 2009 Mick Why do you think it's the ROYAL EDWARD, rather than the ROYAL GEORGE? Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 18 June , 2009 Share Posted 18 June , 2009 I agree that it is the Royal Edward or the Royal George. The Royal Edward was the more noted of the two sister ships, being sunk by a German submarine, UB14 commanded by Heino Von Heimburg, on 13th August 1915. There are many mentions on the Forum about the incident. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 18 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2009 Thanks, all. I think your identification looks good. As you can see my grandma cut the ship out from the postacrd, and glued it down well. I doubt I will get any more out of it but should I ever find a way to peel it up and learn more I will let everyone know. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 19 June , 2009 Share Posted 19 June , 2009 The mast configuration, on pictures of the Royal George no mast fore of the funnel. I need to find the picture that confirms that though. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 19 June , 2009 Share Posted 19 June , 2009 Well spotted, Mick. In fact, Daniel's pic has FOUR "masts". The pic seems to be a 'mocked-up' version. I have dozens of pics of both ships, under the Egyptian Mail SS Co. & the CNR, & one with four masts is a first for me. edit: similarly the Royal George when owned by Cunard. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 19 June , 2009 Share Posted 19 June , 2009 Pic of the Royal Edward originally known as RMS Cairo. Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecktec Posted 19 June , 2009 Share Posted 19 June , 2009 If you look at the third tier of windows in Daniel's photo it has a lot more than those other ship photos ? Cheers Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 19 June , 2009 Share Posted 19 June , 2009 I think it's just badly drawn (sorry, Daniel). And what's going on here? Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 19 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 19 June , 2009 Hi Kath, all... Part of the problem is my grandma cut the ship out, which leads to some weird things visually when looking at the ship. Thus, my frustration. Can't get too mad at her though, she was just a wee Scottish lass at the time. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Currell Posted 20 June , 2009 Share Posted 20 June , 2009 Hi Daniel et al, The funnel colour is also consistent with the White Star Line's ships. I don't have references handy at the moment but I believe there were a few ships of that line with two funnels and four masts. Regards, Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Currell Posted 20 June , 2009 Share Posted 20 June , 2009 Found it! It's the White Star liner Baltic. You can see this postcard at http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/WhiteStar2.html#anchor166116 (scroll down a bit to find the image, click on it to see a larger scan). Regards, Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeb137 Posted 20 June , 2009 Share Posted 20 June , 2009 Once again I am filled with amazement and awe watching the members of this forum at work. Fantastic Work Guys !! Jon B. Newaygo MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 20 June , 2009 Share Posted 20 June , 2009 I think that is fairly conclusive, Ralph! Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 20 June , 2009 Share Posted 20 June , 2009 Thanks, Ralph. I can stop looking for the Royal Edward or the Royal George with four masts! Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted 21 June , 2009 Share Posted 21 June , 2009 Only conclusive if Baltic had no sister ship. P & O had a habit of using one ships picture on a postcard, but changing the name to suit any of the class. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 21 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2009 Found it! It's the White Star liner Baltic. You can see this postcard at http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/WhiteStar2.html#anchor166116 (scroll down a bit to find the image, click on it to see a larger scan). Regards, Ralph Great work, Ralph! You are hereby awarded the Bronze Figligee with Oak Leaf Cluster for your efforts. Take care, -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 21 June , 2009 Share Posted 21 June , 2009 Another winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Currell Posted 21 June , 2009 Share Posted 21 June , 2009 Only conclusive if Baltic had no sister ship. P & O had a habit of using one ships picture on a postcard, but changing the the name to suit any of the class. Alan, that's an interesting point. Baltic did in fact have three somewhat similar contemporaries: Celtic, Cedric and Adriatic. I'm not expert enough to say offhand if one of these other ships was passed off here as Baltic. Great work, Ralph! You are hereby awarded the Bronze Figligee with Oak Leaf Cluster for your efforts. Wow, thanks Daniel! I look forward to seeing what else you found in that scrapbook. Regards, Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted 22 June , 2009 Share Posted 22 June , 2009 As I Thought, The postcard of the Celtic is a mirror image of the Baltic, with a little touchup on the smoke. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 22 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2009 Hi Ghost, A mirror image indeed. I think the postcard grandma cut up was of the Baltic, though the ship, it appears, could have been more than just the Baltic. As an aside, who the heck touches up *smoke*! -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 22 June , 2009 Share Posted 22 June , 2009 Daniel - more to the point - what was your grandma's interest in these ships - & where did she get the postcards from? Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 22 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2009 Hi Kath, She had quite a few postcards; most were not Great War-related, so I will not post them here (like a colourized photo of 'A-Block' at Sing Sing Prison!). If someone knows how I can remove them from the album without damaging either (she glued the heck out of them), then maybe we will have an answer to that. Sadly she passed twenty years ago, so asking her is out. There are some soldiers in full regalia but I do not know if they are Great War-era or not. I will scan and add them to this thread soon. Thanks, -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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