PhilB Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 All other gazette entries have only initials but this has Siddartha. Is it a Christian (ie Buddhist) name or some form of title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apwright Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 In this case it was his name: Births Q3 1897 in Petersfield district - OLIVER Siddartha John (2c 161) Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 Name: OLIVER, SIDDARTHA JOHN Initials: S J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Second Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps Unit Text: 66th Sqdn. Secondary Regiment: General List Secondary Unit Text: and Date of Death: 10/08/1917 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: ARRAS FLYING SERVICES MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 30 March , 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March , 2009 Thanks gents. All cleared up. This definition indicated that it might have been a Buddhist title:- Siddartha Someone who is respected, well known, handsome, or Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 C Hobson Airmen Died 1914-1918 adds: Pilot KIA flying with 66 Sqn. Native of Harrow, Middlesex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 QUOTE (Phil_B @ Mar 30 2009, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This definition indicated that it might have been a Buddhist title It might have been or alternitively an old India hand might have liked the sound of it. There was a huge traffic in words and people between India and the UK, especially in 1897. That was Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee year and there were many 'Soldiers of the Queen' brought over for parade and they were also featured on cigarette cards. Queen Victoria had Indian servants; multi cultralism isn't new! So the family did not have to have visited the Sub Continent. His father was not at home in 1901, mabe he was on overseas service? M S D Smalbone 73 Head Jane M Oliver 43 Daughter Siddartha J Oliver 3 Grandson Harriet Harris 19 Nurse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john-g Posted 30 March , 2009 Share Posted 30 March , 2009 There is a little more information at www.66squadron.co. Officers details john_g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 31 March , 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March , 2009 Thanks, gents. Oliver, Siddartha John, 2/Lt Born English 05/08/1897 at Petersfield With 66 Squadron from 30/06/1917 to 10/08/1917 as pilot Eventual fate kia on 10/08/1917 in aircraft A6201 Notes: 22/07/16 Oxford, 31/12/16 49 Sqn FO, 11 RS, 15/01/17 77 Sqn, 40 RS, 31/06/17 EF 66 Sqn, 10/08/17 mia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 31 March , 2009 Share Posted 31 March , 2009 So it's not simply the combination of two names, Sid and Arthur?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 31 March , 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March , 2009 The word Siddhartha is made up of two words in the Sanskrit language, siddha (achieved) + artha (meaning or wealth). The two words together mean "one who has found meaning (of existence)" or "he who has attained his goals".[1] The Buddha's name, before his renunciation, was Prince Siddhartha Gautama, later the Buddha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 31 March , 2009 Share Posted 31 March , 2009 The word Siddhartha is made up of two words in the Sanskrit language, siddha (achieved) + artha (meaning or wealth). The two words together mean "one who has found meaning (of existence)" or "he who has attained his goals" Found on the internet. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 31 March , 2009 Share Posted 31 March , 2009 So it's not simply the combination of two names, Sid and Arthur?? Siddhartha or Siddartha is the given name of the Buddha (Gautama Buddha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 31 March , 2009 Share Posted 31 March , 2009 8.55pm appears to have been an auspicious moment in time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 31 March , 2009 Share Posted 31 March , 2009 Hmmmm sometimes posts are like buses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest purplesusie Posted 22 May , 2011 Share Posted 22 May , 2011 If posts are like busses - then ok this is a tad late! I came across this poor guy's gravestone in Harrow, Middx today as I walked through the cemetery to the park, with the dog. I have walked past it thousands of times. But today I noticed the name 'siddartha' at the bottom of his grandmother's grave. I was intrigued, as this was the Buddha's name - and the book by Herman Hesse So, I sat down and pulled away the grass, and scraped away, and found the following: SIDDARTHA JOHN OLIVER 2ND LIEUT RFC ONLY CHILD OF JM OLIVER DIED IN AREIL BATTLE IN FLANDERS 10 AUGUST 1917 GRANDMOTHER WAS MARY SARAH DUDBRIDGE SMALLBONE 17 JANUARY 1829 TO 7 OCTOBER 1916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 22 May , 2011 Share Posted 22 May , 2011 He's on the Arras memorial, but I noticed that his entry in the University of London OTC Roll of Honour shows him to be buried at Audenaarde (see the foot of the page below). I wonder if there is or was a grave of an unidentified RFC man in that area....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest purplesusie Posted 22 May , 2011 Share Posted 22 May , 2011 Oh gosh... I never expected to hear anything more. I just joined to see if he was 'known' and posted for posterity. I guess its a memorial as it says he died in Flanders. I have some pics of his grave - I will try and add them If anyone wants more from Pinner Road, Harrow Cemetery (the one at the bottom of the hill) let me know Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 22 May , 2011 Share Posted 22 May , 2011 That's a family memorial. He's commemorated on the Arras Flying Services memorial, so somewhere along the line the reference to his known grave at Audenaarde (now Oudenaarde) was lost. I may be wrong on this, but I don't think there was heavy fighting at Oudenaarde in '17-'18, so maybe it's just his named grave marker that was lost....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noor Posted 16 January Share Posted 16 January and his British War Medal appears on ebay at the moment. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386641795316?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=U_5ERk8jTie&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=xlK6YqRMQMu&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 16 January Author Share Posted 16 January 4 hours ago, Noor said: and his British War Medal appears on ebay at the moment. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386641795316?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=U_5ERk8jTie&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=xlK6YqRMQMu&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY With a photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexflyer Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January Would have to say he looks somewhat Anglo-Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 28 January Author Share Posted 28 January 2 hours ago, Wexflyer said: Would have to say he looks somewhat Anglo-Indian Probably explains the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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