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Locheelad

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Good evening from Dundee.

Ok - i'm stupid and its probably hitting me in the face.

i've been to Ancestry, National Archives, The Royal Scots regiment etc but i need guidance of where to go next.

I've a private 11th Royal Scots.

I know his full name, number, date of birth, date of marriage, his medal index card but can i find out where he was was finally wounded or his service record - nope.

His surname begins in an " O " - he was awarded the Silver War Badge.( list- d/427 ) I even know the hospital he was in !

Anybody any pointers as to where to go next - this is beginning to do my head in as its probably so easy and i've missed it !

Your help as ever is appreciated

Bob

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Bob

So you have a name,do you have dates as well ! It would help if you posted these too.

It may not be possible to determine when or where he was wounded as the War Diary may not name the Other Ranks,most of them just show the numbers of killed/wounded/missing.

Sotonmate

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Thanks Soton for the reply.

The reason i never posted his details is i did not want to impose on you guys to maybe spend your precious time on this but simply put me on the right lines.

His details are :

William Stewart Orchiston

D.o.B. 19th January 1895

Married 9th April 1917

11th battalion Royal scots

No 15877

Was in hospital Craigmaddie Milngavie nr Glasgow for 2 years ( lost a leg )

Served : france

Entered : 11.5.15

Basically the aim is to find out where he was so his grandson and i can visit in june

Your help is appreciated

Bob

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List D/427

15877 Pte William Orchiston The Royal Scots

Awarded Silver War Badge 216075

Enlisted 7th November 1914

Discharged due to Wounds 12th July 1917

Steve

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  • 5 years later...
Guest Limousin

I had the chance finding a sketchbook in which is preserved a portrait of
William Orchiston. This portrait was drawn by the sculptor Corneille
Theunissen (1863-1918) in august 1916, 2nd Australian General Hospital in
Wimereux (France). William Orchiston was wounded and got care I would be
really happy to find informations about this man. I send You a photograph of this drawing.

Do you think this man could be your ancestor ?

Thank You very much for helping.
Catherine Limousin
Catherine.Limousin@paris-sorbonne.fr

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The internet is such a wonderful thing.

Bob cast out an interesting piece of bait back in 2009.

Now in 2014 you appear to have landed a big fish for him.

I hope he checks in to look at his prize..

Well done Catherine

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Just looking to see if the lottery prize has been claimed yet ?

Come on Orchiston family your prize is here !!

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What a great find! What the forum is all about! Touch wood it's my great grandfather's medals next!

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Great find! Very interesting....is the hat badge on the Tam MGC?

Rgds

Tim D

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Come on..

we need a happy ending to this thread !!!

Bob - sort it for William's grand son !!

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I had the chance finding a sketchbook in which is preserved a portrait of

William Orchiston. This portrait was drawn by the sculptor Corneille

Theunissen (1863-1918) in august 1916, 2nd Australian General Hospital in

Wimereux (France). William Orchiston was wounded and got care I would be

really happy to find informations about this man. I send You a photograph of this drawing.

Do you think this man could be your ancestor ?

Thank You very much for helping.

Catherine Limousin

Catherine.Limousin@paris-sorbonne.fr

Does anyone know if the family have been informed about this epic picture !! POST 5 above !!

EDIT ; I have just checked his profile and sent a message to his French guest house.. Hope it is the right person.

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Bit late for your visit June 2009 but Orchiston is mentioned twice in the casualty lists:

25th Oct 1915, report received 15th Oct 1915

and 9th Aug 1916

Seems the W Orchiston in post#5 fits in date wise for 15877 Orchiston's 2nd wound.

There is another W Orchiston 200389 Black Watch wounded August 1917

TEW

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Still not claimed.

could you just imagine that your WW1 hero had been in hospital and was painted by Corneille

Theunissen (1863-1918)

and the work remains from your view..

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Martin,

Locheelad (Bob) was on the GWF on Jan 7th this year, so perhaps he has seen the portrait but not thanked anyone for finding it - he wouldn't be the first by any means!

BillyH.

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Three years plus later I'm reading this. I've literally not been on the forum for that time, indeed had to rejoin as appears original details not valid. I genuinely never knew re this (if I did its a blank I'm afraid) and thank everyone albeit very late for their input. Whether it's the big fish, don't know. Will see the family this week. Will post the response. Really appreciated - Bob.

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There is a picture of a William Orchiston in a Dundee paper in November 1915. Saying killed.  Royal Scots.

15877 is on War Office wounded lists 15/10/15 and 8/8/16.

Presume paper is error as no William Orchiston on CWGC.

Drawing does not look much like picture

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'His late grandfather William Orchiston, a gardener from Dundee, was just 19 when he lost his left leg there while serving with the Royal Scots.

“They were in a shell hole when it happened – him and another guy who was killed instantly,”

“My grandfather was badly injured in both legs and lost his left one when he got home after gangrene set in......

“His other good leg couldn’t move. It was straight all the time. He actually got shrapnel taken from his leg in 1962. My mother brought it home in a jar – shrapnel from the Somme!”

........his grandfather, who lived until he was 87, rarely talked about the war.

“He got very confused about what happened – we put it down to the shellshock.”

 

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/619511/property-restoration-sheds-new-light-on-dundee-businessmans-family-links-with-somme-carnage/

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Wow, I am very confused now. So if the portrait is nothing to do with the Grandson you mention in your original post could there be a connection with Ron Mitchell as reported in the above newspaper article ?

 

My honest feeling is that the pastel drawing can only be of

William Orchiston

No 15877

Edited by Martin Feledziak
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Will post the Dundee newspaper pic when back in the Uk in a couple f weeks. Interesting to see if he is the right man for the family.

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