PhilB Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 Image details There`s no regiment mentioned. Could this be the Welsh Wizard? Description Medal card of Lloyd-George, David Date 1914-1920 Catalogue reference WO 372/12 Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War Piece Langley P A - McGrath D Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection Number of image files: 1 Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£) 113076 / 25971 PDF 1.2 1 167 1 2.00 Total Price (£) 2.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 The very man. The card shows his entitlement to the 1914 Star, and British War Medals and is also annotated OM MP. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 He also got an award for services to the French High Command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 Well, he was the boss, after all. I don't recall a photograph with ribbons up. Anyone seen one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 Ultra-picky, I know, but as he didn't use a hyphen, they have spelled his name wrong! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 25 February , 2009 Share Posted 25 February , 2009 Tom The actual entry is not hyphenated. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 26 February , 2009 Share Posted 26 February , 2009 Can someone explain why he was entitled as I'm struggling to get my head around this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 26 February , 2009 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2009 Well, he was the boss, after all. I don't recall a photograph with ribbons up. Anyone seen one? He wasn`t the boss in 1914, so the 14 star is rather strange. I assume Asquith also got a 14 trio. Like Will, I`m struggling to see which bit of the qualification applies to them. Honorary military rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 26 February , 2009 Share Posted 26 February , 2009 Can someone explain why he was entitled as I'm struggling to get my head around this. Struggle no more. Politicians simply don't have to qualify for things like ordinary people. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 26 February , 2009 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2009 I can`t find a similar entry for Asquith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_hughes Posted 26 February , 2009 Share Posted 26 February , 2009 Apparently there are a number of photos of Lloyd George wearing his medals, though I haven't myself seen them to date. If they are on display anywhere, it will be at the Lloyd George Museum at Llanystumdwy, Criccieth, Gwynedd, where he lived (and is buried in a private plot by the river, under an enormous natural boulder). More to the point, I will quote an article by W.Mc.E.Bisset in the Journal of the Orders and Medals Research Society, Vol 16 no.4 (Winter 1977) page 209. He in turn had some information from Lord Beaverbrook's Men and Power 1917-1918 (Hutchinson, London, 1956)p.325f, which I haven't checked. If accurate, Churchill as Secretary of State for War had firstly tried to create LG as Prime Minister a companion of the DSO, only for the recommendation to be refused. He then told the King it was the wish of the Army Council that LG should have the war medals. The King demurred, as then Asquith and assorted War Cabinet members might make similar claims. LG however had already been informed of the proposal, so the award was approved and he was duly presented with the medals by the Army Council on 7 January 1920. He was apparently highly delighted and declared he would rather have the medals then an Earldom (he eventually ended up with both, of course). King George V also approved the special award of WW1 medals to Asquith. This source says nothing about which medals each man got. LST_164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 26 February , 2009 Share Posted 26 February , 2009 I believe the Nivelle Award was buried with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremym Posted 26 February , 2009 Share Posted 26 February , 2009 Lord Beaverbrook's Men and Power 1917-18 (pp.325-6) reads: 'In June, 1919, after the signing of the Peace Treaty, on Lloyd George's return to London he was received by the King, who drove with him through the streets to Buckingham Palace. The public reception was a delirious event. Churchill, Secretary of State for War, recommended that the Prime Minister should be awarded the Distinguished Service Order. The recommendation was rejected. Churchill was never easily put off. In October he wrote to the King that the Army Council wished Lloyd George to have the war medals. The Palace resisted. The King thought that Asquith should be on the same footing as Lloyd George. He objected that it would be diffiicult to give the medals to Lloyd George and ignore the other ministers. Nor, it appeared, was he entirely persuaded that the inspiration had come from the Army Council. But he was awkwardly placed for it was probable that Lloyd George had already been told. And, in fact, Churchill wrote again on 7th December, 1919, acknowledging that Lloyd George had been consulted and had expressed great pleasure, saying "I would rather have these than an Earldom". On 8th January, 1920, the newspapers announced: "At 10 Downing Street, last night, Mr.Winston Churchill and the members of the Army Council waited upon the Prime Minister to present him with the special award of the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal, approved by the King. The proceedings, which were private, lasted only a few minutes. The speeches of Mr.Churchill, who presented the medals, and of the Prime Minister were quite informal. We understand that the King has also approved the special award of the three war medals to Mr.Asquith." ' I should add that Beaverbook's memoirs and commentaries are always written with an agenda in mind and that it is unwise to take anything he writes as correct without independent verifiiciation. However, the facts of what happened seem authentic enough, even if the commentary on the King's attitude may be speculative. jeremym (Jeremy Mitchell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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