Versigny Posted 23 January , 2009 Share Posted 23 January , 2009 At the start of the war the initial BEF deployed to France was approx 100,000 strong and almost at the same time Kitchener called for 100,000 volunteers. Did the term "first 100,000", in use at the time, refer to the BEF, or to Kitchener's volunteers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 23 January , 2009 Share Posted 23 January , 2009 I have only heard it used for Kitcheners first 100,000 men. sm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 23 January , 2009 Share Posted 23 January , 2009 I agree with Steve, and the phrase was also the title of a very popular book - The First Hundred Thousand by Ian Hay (Ian Hay Beath). I think it was this book (originally published as a series of magazine articles) which gave the phrase its usual meaning, clearly referring to the First of Kitchener's men. You can read The First Hundred Thousand online here. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 23 January , 2009 Share Posted 23 January , 2009 Also known as K1 Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versigny Posted 26 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January , 2009 Thank you each for your responses. However, I've heard/read the term used in respect of the BEF - but can only readily find one example, in the opening lines of Kate Caffrey's "Farewell, Leicester Square - The Old Contemptibles 12 August-20 November 1914" which states quite clearly: "Who are the Old Contemptibles? They are......'the first hundred thousand'....". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 I'm sure that Kate Caffrey must be one of a very small number of authors to apply the phrase to the Old Contemptibles. I wonder whether Kate Caffrey simply got her facts wrong, and we are seeing a mistake. Or perhaps she was opening her book with an attention-grabbing claim - that the qualities we ascribe to the Kitchener volunteers (heroism, duty, self-sacrifice, comradeship) had already been shown earlier in the war by the OCs, so in a way, these were also worthy of the title "First Hundred Thousand". If so, then the attention-grabbing aspect would only work as long as it was widely understood that the phrase actually referred to the men who responded to Lord Kitchener's first Call to Arms. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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