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17th Battalion Liverpool Pals


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I don't have the diary but the history states....

"The 17th and 20th Battalions were also releived on the night of 3rd/4th August and moved back to Chateau Segard, thence on 4th to Ottowa Camp. The 17th King's record the following casualties from the 1st to the 3rd of August; killed, Capt. J H Joseph and seventeen other ranks; wounded, Second-Lieut. E. Davies and 74 other ranks; missingm twelve other ranks."

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I don't have the diary but the history states....

"The 17th and 20th Battalions were also releived on the night of 3rd/4th August and moved back to Chateau Segard, thence on 4th to Ottowa Camp. The 17th King's record the following casualties from the 1st to the 3rd of August; killed, Capt. J H Joseph and seventeen other ranks; wounded, Second-Lieut. E. Davies and 74 other ranks; missingm twelve other ranks."

Cheers mate, most appreciated.....

Cheers, Donnie.

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'Liverpool Pals' by the late Graham Maddocks states that, during its time in the line at Pilkem Ridge, just before the relief of the 30th Division (including 17th KLR)in early August, the 17th Battalion lost three officers and seventy-nine men killed or died of wounds, and four officers and one hundred and ninety-eight men wounded...

Maddocks included a roll of honour of those of the Liverpool Pals who died, arranged by date, but extracted from SDGW. Is there anyone you are interested in?

Daggers

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Donnie

You probably know that Joseph Dixon's name is on the Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing at Ypres.

According to Maddocks's book, Dixon was one of 28 men of the 17th Battalion listed as KIA on 4 Aug 1917, most of whom are also named on the Menin Gate memorial. His birth place is given as Blackburn, Lancs.

An extract from 'Liverpool Pals', p.166, as background to the 89th Brigade's actions in late July:

"Although they had not managed to achieve their objectives, they could hardly be blamed, as their success depended on the success of those in front of them. Once they joined the action, they performed as creditably as anyone could have expected, the 17th Battalion actually being the most advanced Battalion in the [30th] Division at one stage, despite the fact that it was supposed to have a supporting role. The 30th Division's task was undoubtedly the most difficult in the II Corps, because of the nature of the ground to be attacked, and the fact remains that the whole of the II Corps attack was not so successful as those either side of it, although in all places the German front and support line had been breached. This lack of success was almost certainly because of the central position of the II Corps attack area and the carefully prepared German fortifications which straddled the Menin Road."

Hope this helps

D

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