17tankman Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Anybody got a picture of the C Tank Battalion Tank C6 Cordon Rouge that they would be kind in posting so that I can use it in some research I am doing. Thanks 17TankMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks3 Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Hi, There is a good photo of C6 after the battle of Flers Courcelette on page 133 of Trever Pidgeon's book "The Tanks at Flers". C6 was at that time commanded by 2/Lt J Allen and with C5 (Capt Inglis)attacked the Sugar Factory at Courcelette in support of the Canadians. The battleground europe series "Courcellette" by Paul Reed is another good book which details Allens after battle report on page 50. Let me know if you don't have Pidgeons book Tanks3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17tankman Posted 7 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Thks I borrowed it from the library awhile and will get it out. Question I though the driver of C6 was Lt John ALLAN not Allen. My research shows ALLAN what does the book show?? Thks 17tankman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Moore Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 The Canadian Corps war diary records 2/Lt. John Allen as the commander of C6. Here is a view of the tank (courtesy of the Canadian War Memorial), probably taken on the Albert - Bapaume road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Thks I borrowed it from the library awhile and will get it out. Question I though the driver of C6 was Lt John ALLAN not Allen. My research shows ALLAN what does the book show?? Thks 17tankman Driver and commander are not the same thing. Allen would be the commander - someone else would have driven the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17tankman Posted 8 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 8 November , 2008 Hi I am right the Commander was Lt John ALLAN not Allen. See page 210 of The Tanks at Fler bu Pidgeon and the MIC at NA. He was killed later on with B Bn see CWGC site. In the tank was 9 on board including ALLAN 2749 Cpl F Vyvyan 2668 Gnr H J Bedford 2772 Gnr A F Jakins 2640 Gnr W Jones 2751 Gnr C Kilminster 2626 Gnr V C Newby 2633 Gnr E A Hunt T4/141180 Pte J Barton ASC Barton would have been the driver 17tankman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17tankman Posted 8 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 8 November , 2008 Just looked in Tank Corps honours and awards T.2nd Lieut John ALLAN MGC awarded MC for the Flers action. 17Tankman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 8 November , 2008 Share Posted 8 November , 2008 and died of wounds in Jun 1917 see: http://www.firsttankcrews.com/tanknosc1c6.htm Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks3 Posted 8 November , 2008 Share Posted 8 November , 2008 Hi, Battleground Europe book quotes "Allen". Must be a typo Tanks3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew pugh Posted 8 November , 2008 Share Posted 8 November , 2008 Hi 17 Tankman. Corpral 2749 F,Vyvyan. of "C" Bn was awarded the D.M.C. in 1917. Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17tankman Posted 9 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2008 I think Allen and Allan are too similar when writing a report when at war. The biggest mistake is in Trevor Pidgeons book one minute he is calling him Lt J Allan and then the next three times it is Allen. Looks like he took the Allen from the war reports and never crossed checked it. Will hold nothing against him as a cracking book The Tanks at Fler and well worth reading several times over. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 9 November , 2008 Share Posted 9 November , 2008 Just to be awkward, there were two tank officers, one called John Allan - who fought at Flers and a John Allen. C6 was commanded by the first and his MC citation - as extracted from the LG dasted 14 Nov 1916, is shown here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17tankman Posted 9 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2008 Delta The John Allen you mentioned is this the one from 6th Batt a capt who won MC (not with tanks) and was WIA at 8th Oct 1918??? 17Tankman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 9 November , 2008 Share Posted 9 November , 2008 Indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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