GraemeClarke Posted 31 October , 2008 Share Posted 31 October , 2008 I have a copy of a list which gives details of the entries relating to men who served in the South Staffordshire Regiment and who are mentioned in the War Diaries. It lists why they are mentioned ie wounded to hospital, KIA, reports etc etc. Most of the diaries refer only to officers but the 1/5th Battalion War Diary refers to many of the enlisted men and gives their Company. I do not have access to the actual diary, only the dates in which the men are mentioned. Happy to do 'look ups' Graeme NB Credit to Mr J.C..J. Elson of Hednesford who compiled the list in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John G Posted 31 October , 2008 Share Posted 31 October , 2008 Hello Graeme, A couple of requests please: Clay, Albert Lance Corporal who died 14.3.1917. Secondly, any mentions of the city of Lichfield Thanks for checking John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 31 October , 2008 Share Posted 31 October , 2008 Hi, Graeme, Congratulations and thanks to you for your generosity and to Mr. Elson for his dedication. Would you mind having a look for 1103 (later 201486) Pte. Richard Morgan? He was in the 1/5th and later the 2/6th. I'd be interested in any reference at all. Best wishes - Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 1 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2008 JPG re Clay, Albert Lance Corporal who died 14.3.1917. He is mentioned in the War Diary of 14.3.17 as KIA 20064 and in Appendix 4 of that month. No other entry. Sorry, it does not mention anything else nor re Lichfield. Ragards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 1 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Tom, The 1/5th Diary has 'Morgan, Lance Corporal 201251 R. Diary of 28.6.17 Wounded' Nothing for a 201486 Morgan or in 6th WD I'm afraid. Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 1 November , 2008 Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Hi Graeme, Does it list 2nd Lieutenant Albert Frank Shortman. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 1 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Mark, It mentions a Second Lieutenant Albert T. Shortman for 3 April 1916 saying he was wounded on that date. Also Joined Battalion for duty 2.2.16. general course Leeds. From 3/5th SSR. Disembarked Alexandria 26.01.16. Wounded to hospital 2.4.16. Taken off establishment 8.4.16. Divisional School of Instruction 20.2.16 - 5.3.16. SoS 1st Line Medical Board 22.8.16. wombe09/38/404 d.7.9.16. Single, father E.H. Shortman, Planetree House, Bloxwich. (I dont know what wombe09/38/404 is !!!) Is this the same man ? Graeme NB I am from Bloxwich area and am looking at the RoH but it does not mention him. Are you a relative or are you researching local mems. ? (I take it d.7.9.16 means he died of his injuries however I cannot find him in CWGC or SDGW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 1 November , 2008 Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Hi, Thanks for the information. Yes I think that is the same man. I know his son and agreed to try and find some information on him. I know 2nd Lieutenant Albert Frank Shortman was wounded by a bullet grazing his head and he survived the war serving with the 3rd Battalion. He was born 1896 at Pelsall, Walsall and Commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant on 9th September 1915. (Previously in OTC) Aged 19. 1901 Census The Wood, Pelsall Walsall. Next Off Kin: Father Edward.Henry. Shortman , Plane Tree House, Bloxwich b.1854 Mother Ada Shortman b.1857 Siblings: Mary Ann Shortman b.1883 Edward Henry Shortman b.1884 Henry Bruce Shortman b.1887 Martha Elizabeth Williams (Cousin) b.1882 Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 1 November , 2008 Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Tom, The 1/5th Diary has 'Morgan, Lance Corporal 201251 R. Diary of 28.6.17 Wounded' Nothing for a 201486 Morgan or in 6th WD I'm afraid. Regards, Graeme Thanks for looking for me, Graeme. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa park Posted 1 November , 2008 Share Posted 1 November , 2008 Hello Graeme, Is there any mention of my Great uncle Pte George Green No 9543 He was killed in action 13/7/1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 2 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 November , 2008 Maurice, I see that he was in 2nd Battalion. Unfortunately, like most other War Diaries, the 2nd Battalion diary mostly mentions officers (an odd smackering of Sergeants are mentioned). Sorry, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa park Posted 2 November , 2008 Share Posted 2 November , 2008 Maurice, I see that he was in 2nd Battalion. Unfortunately, like most other War Diaries, the 2nd Battalion diary mostly mentions officers (an odd smackering of Sergeants are mentioned). Sorry, Graeme Thanks Graeme, Is there any mention of where he may have died on that date? Regards Maurice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 2 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 November , 2008 Maurice, I have managed to find out the following, I dont know what you already know. George William Green Private 9543, 2nd Battalion, South Staffordshire Regiment Buried in Beinvillers Military Cemetery in Grave XVIII. C. 3, south west of Arras. Born Aston, resided Hockley and enlisted in Birmingham. Was drafted to France on Sunday 27 December 1914 Killed while battalion was holding the trenches at Ayette, about 7 miles south of Arras.(probably by shellfire as the sector was quiet at this time BUT not certain as I do not have the War Diary for this date). Someone else on the Forum may be able to provide the WD for this date. Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa park Posted 2 November , 2008 Share Posted 2 November , 2008 Graeme, Many thanks for this information,I knew some of this detail but not all. Regards Maurice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItemCo16527 Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Hi Graeme, Do you have any entries relating to 202420 Pte. Henry John Bemi, 2/5th South Staffs? His previous regimental number is 2715. He was later discharged from the 2nd South Staffs with the rank of Lance Corporal. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 3 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Jeff, Nothing in the listing BUT did you know his service record exists? Are you a member of Ancestry, it is available there. Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItemCo16527 Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Hi Graeme, I already obtained his service record from Ancestry, but I was hoping you might be able to turn up some additional tidbits. Thank you for checking for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John G Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 JPG re Clay, Albert Lance Corporal who died 14.3.1917. He is mentioned in the War Diary of 14.3.17 as KIA 20064 and in Appendix 4 of that month. No other entry. Sorry, it does not mention anything else nor re Lichfield. Ragards Thanks for taking the time to check. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesjean Posted 6 November , 2008 Share Posted 6 November , 2008 I have a copy of a list which gives details of the entries relating to men who served in the South Staffordshire Regiment and who are mentioned in the War Diaries. It lists why they are mentioned ie wounded to hospital, KIA, reports etc etc. Most of the diaries refer only to officers but the 1/5th Battalion War Diary refers to many of the enlisted men and gives their Company. I do not have access to the actual diary, only the dates in which the men are mentioned. Happy to do 'look ups' Graeme NB Credit to Mr J.C..J. Elson of Hednesford who compiled the list in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesjean Posted 6 November , 2008 Share Posted 6 November , 2008 Hi Graeme, Any mention of the name Richardson? I had several gt uncles serving with the Staffs during ww1. JeanR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 6 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 6 November , 2008 Jeanr, 1/5th Battalion Pte 41061 A Richardson Pte 14563 G.W. Richardson 1st Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J. Richardson 2nd Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J.R. Richardson Lt. Col. A.J. Richardson 7th Battalion 2nd Lt. H.B. Richardson Any of these likely? Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katya Posted 9 November , 2008 Share Posted 9 November , 2008 Thomas W Proudlove - South staffs regiment. 1915-1917 fought in the Somme. Injured and sent to Red Cross hospital in Derbyshire. This was my grandfather and I am taking my mother to France in the New Year to see where he fought. Have researched as much as possible but think records may have been in the burnt records. Have the medal card and will go to the Archives in Kew to find any further info on medal roll. Very grateful if anyone has a mention of him in relevant war diaries. Thanks very much I have a copy of a list which gives details of the entries relating to men who served in the South Staffordshire Regiment and who are mentioned in the War Diaries. It lists why they are mentioned ie wounded to hospital, KIA, reports etc etc. Most of the diaries refer only to officers but the 1/5th Battalion War Diary refers to many of the enlisted men and gives their Company. I do not have access to the actual diary, only the dates in which the men are mentioned. Happy to do 'look ups' Graeme NB Credit to Mr J.C..J. Elson of Hednesford who compiled the list in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 10 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2008 Sorry Katya, Nothing mentioned in the papers I have, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesjean Posted 10 November , 2008 Share Posted 10 November , 2008 Jeanr, 1/5th Battalion Pte 41061 A Richardson Pte 14563 G.W. Richardson 1st Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J. Richardson 2nd Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J.R. Richardson Lt. Col. A.J. Richardson 7th Battalion 2nd Lt. H.B. Richardson Any of these likely? Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesjean Posted 10 November , 2008 Share Posted 10 November , 2008 Jeanr, 1/5th Battalion Pte 41061 A Richardson Pte 14563 G.W. Richardson 1st Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J. Richardson 2nd Battalion 2nd Lt. R.J.R. Richardson Lt. Col. A.J. Richardson 7th Battalion 2nd Lt. H.B. Richardson Any of these likely? Graeme Hi Graeme, Thanks, but no matches Jeanr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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