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Could some kind soul please help me disentangle this lot? This is Charlie's record from having been promoted to Acting Carpenter to his retirement as Shipwright Lieutenant. (Posting left half only for size and legibility reasons)

Various things I'm unsure about:

Does "Home" mean he was working in the dockyard?

Is Pembroke a ship or the port?

What does "for" and "addl for" mean, eg "Pembroke addl for Canopus"?

Sorry it's not that easy to read, especially at the bottom. Can anyone give me a summary? I'll post the other half too - looks like he had a spot of trouble, unfortunately .... :ph34r:

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Hi Greyhound

HMS Pembroke is land based at Chatham docks in Kent,

cant help with other itms but am looking for some stronger glasses.

regards Margarette

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"Home" = home waters aboard the ship in the left column.

Pembroke a 'stone frigate' as Margarette says the name used for Chatham including: the docks, the barracks and hospital.

What does "for" and "addl for" mean, eg "Pembroke addl for Canopus"? He was borne on the books of Pembroke as additional crew for Canopus.

I can’t make out many of the comments, one is “Enquiry into the death of Able Seaman ?? Sanderson displayed lamentable lack of judgement; Their Lordship’s (of the Admiralty) severe displeasure expressed.” He seems to have got his act together because he is later noted as ‘zealous and capable.’

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Yes, I have, thanks, per. Have been kicking myself for only just realising the rest of his record would be in the officers section. I did know Carpenter was a PO rank as well, so no excuse!

Thanks, Margarette, that's enlightening. I can try posting the lower section again, see if I can make it a bit bigger.

Yes, I wonder what happened! Possibly something we might call a Health & Safety issue?

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Yes, he was, Charles - he probably served his apprenticeship with his father who was a shipwright in Sheerness. It looks to me, then, as though he didn't see much service at sea (apart from the posting on HMS Newcastle), but worked mostly on ships in the port.

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HI greyhound

Thanks for improved copy, regret I still cant make it all out

(enquiry into death and lamentable lack of judgement:

for what? the rest are favourable remarks!

If you are interested if you type in Charham Docks you

can go on a vertual tour of Chatham docks not used by

the navy nowbut very interesting.

regards Margarette

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I think he had a slow start to the war and it built up speed,

HMS Newcastle was the ship he served on and that was on the China and pacific Station.

HMS Canopus paying off.

HMS Courageous Took part in the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight

Regards Charles

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Thanks. Plenty for me to look up now!

Off-topic, strictly speaking, as the incident was pre-war, but I've found out what happened. Accident, as one might guess. Details via PM if anyone's interested.

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Could Home be Howe?

The pre Dreadnought battleship Howe was sold 11 October 1910, according to JJ Colledge 'Ships of the Royal Navy' revised Warlow2006.

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I think it must be “home” in both cases. He was definitely in Chatham Dockyard in Dec 1907. And in the 1912 entry, comparing with the “n” in “China” below, I think it’s just the way the guy wrote an “m”.

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Hi,

It looks like home on one line and Howe on the other, however it could be a reference to the station where he was posted

i.e. China station - indicating Far East Fleet or Home station - area around Britain.

David

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  • 8 months later...

1881 census

Charles P. SANDERSON Head M Male 40 Sunderland, Durham, England Shipwright

Mary Ann SANDERSON Wife M Female 32 Sheerness, Kent, England

Jane A. SANDERSON Daur Female 11 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar

Charles P. SANDERSON Son Male 9 Jarrow, Durham, England Scholar

Annie SANDERSON Daur Female 3 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar

William SANDERSON Son Male 5 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar

James SANDERSON Son Male 1 Sheerness, Kent, England

17 Victoria St Minster In Sheppey, Kent, England

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