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Remembered Today:

The battle for Hill 304 in France


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Is it Copse 105 or 109..cant recall.

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Thats the one!! Too much alcohol over the years dims the brain.....

TT

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the lines on 19.8.1917

Here they are in May 1916...

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Here they are in May 1916...

...and January 1917...

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  • 3 years later...

I love nosing round all the other posts on this forum.

 

 

 

 

This is today's conclusion from such a "Moach"

 

 

 

 

 

I think the link to " Divisions of the German army which participated in the war "

 

 

contains the very information which I needed to solve a family mystery.

 

 

 

 

 

The below image records a section from a report on the 10th Reserve Division - containing the 37th Fusilier Regiment.

 

 

 

 

 

Johann Feledziak 1897 - 1917.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

the above tells me what happened to Johann Killed 1917.

 

 

The below is from the regiment history -

 

 

 

 

 

Johann Feledziak 1897 - 1917 A.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion :-

 

 

 

 

 

He was reported missing, or that could also be Wounded, on 28th June 1917 during the attack on Hill 304 Avocourt Wood.( Mort Homme ).

 

 

 

 

 

Evidently he ends up at the hospital in Stennay Sur Muse and dies of wounds on 18th July 1917.

 

 

 

 

 

Martin.

 

 

 

 

 

Johann Feledziak was my great Uncle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is a page from the history of Fusilier regiment No 37 - and the dates of death match up with the actions as reported in the book above.

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Martin,

Where is your great uncle buried ? I'm often passing through Stenay and if it's nearby I could get you a photograph if you wanted.

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Steve,

Strangely I found this Johann last year on a motorbike trip through consenveoye. I knew there were two but I did not know who was who.

So I have a photo and have paid him a visit.

However

If you are anywhere near Servon Melzicourt then the other Great Uncle Johann is in the German Cemetery there.

He was in Pionier Batallion 29 killed in April 1915.

I hope to visit in the next couple of years

I have the plot number Block 2 Grave 501and a plan of the cemetery.

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Hi Martin,

I won't get chance to visit this holiday but I might in the summer.

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Thanks Steve.

I hope to go next year as it will be 100 years since he was killed. ( 22 04 1915 Argonne Forrest )

Below is his Cousin who was killed in 1917.

and is at rest in Consenvoye - a few miles south of Stennay

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This is a page from the history of Fusilier regiment No 37 - and the dates of death match up with the actions as reported in the book above.

attachicon.gifReg history pag 406.jpg

I have been looking at the soldiers killed on 28th June 1917. ( from just that page the lady kindly sent to me )

The below is a link to the casualty report from Berlin on 25th July 1917.

I can see that

Martin Drozdynski born 01 10 1890 - killed the same day as Johann was wounded.

but I can not understand his rank.

Any one know what it says

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/6476099

others lost:-

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/6409727

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/6409696

Johann is also reported on the same page. It has him listed as seriously wounded - but in truth he had already died in the Stennay Hospital on 18 July 1917.

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/6476957

Very sad to learn these facts ….but I am still pleased to be able to find these historical truths.

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Thank you Christina

So now I am guessing that Martin Drozdynski was leading company 4 up the Hill 304 on 28th June 1917. He may have been with Max Puppe, Paul Pruszalkiewicz and others including my great Uncle Johann to their ultimate end.

Records indicate that they all died there, or died as a result of this action, as in the case of Johann.

I have seen mention of flamethrowers in this advance too.

We must keep looking.

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It's Copse 125 - Rossignol Wood to the British.

The book is available in English. I have it.

It's interesting to compare it with Storm Over Steel as his description of the trenches in Flanders is exactly how they look in the St Mihiel Salient.

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I recently found this pistol - and today this thread.

The 142. Regiment was in the area of Hill 304 from July to October with the 29th Div. and was engaged in the heavy fighting there on the 17th and August 1st so just after Johan was wounded......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, John C. F. said:

Hill 304

 

Greetings John,

Yes, as I read it, the 9th weapon from the 5th Company of IR142.

It looks to be in a very nice condition and a valuable piece too.

 

 

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Thank you.

Really enjoying the site.

 

It's quite a feeling to be holding that pistol while researching the units history - and this thread in particular.

 

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6 hours ago, John C. F. said:

Really enjoying the site

 

Some photographs turned up today posted on another thread for you to look at John

 

 

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Those are really great.Thanks, 

"The past is never dead.It's not even past" - especially here.

I've been a member for quite a few years, looks like my previous few posts disappeared, but mostly just as a lurker.

I see Bob Lembke replied on this thread and I still often think about the unwinding of the thread of his grandfather and his grandmother and the trunk (and his father) that he posted here.

Just a wonderful resource to make  one feel connected to Humanity.

 

Yesterday I heard a poet describing how,in looking at small pieces of ancient jewelry she was struck by the fact that those objects were made and then passed to someone thousands of years ago. She described each one as being a love story.

Well, of course that Luger may not exactly be a love story, and probably neither were all those pieces of jewelry- but it is part of the same story of all of us and it's an extraordinary thing to see it fleshed out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, John C. F. said:

Bob Lembke

 

Gosh Yes.

 

I was helped in my early days by Bob LEMBKE and Egbert, sorting out my history.

Bob would have been all over those new photographs. He would have loved them.

 

The internet is such a wonderful thing and truly an information superhighway.

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