simoneyre Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 For anyone interested there is a book published which I have written on Trawler Skippers in WW1 Its mainly about their medals but other topics are covered as well and a full listing of the Skippers is there Hope it might be of interest to some of you http://www.omrs.org.uk/OrderProduct_72.asp?Action=Order&Customer_Id=77665353&ref= Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 17 January , 2015 Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Thanks for the tip-off, Simon. Does your scope also extend to the skippers of drifters and armed fishing smacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoneyre Posted 18 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2015 Morning Ive tried to include all skippers who had that rank in the RNR so includes a lot of drifter and smack skippers Also covers men who were in the Fishery Reserve so will cover virtually all the Trawler and Drifter Skippers serving during WW1 Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalebone Posted 18 January , 2015 Share Posted 18 January , 2015 Simon, Is Jesse Jones WSA 717 DSC included in the book if so I will inform his Granddaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 18 January , 2015 Share Posted 18 January , 2015 This looks very interesting. A couple of questions: is it a listing of skippers/chief skippers and all the boats that they served in or a listing of boats and all the skippers who commanded them; and do the skippers include second hands who were promoted to warrant skipper rank during the war but retained their second hand official numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoneyre Posted 18 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2015 1. Yes Jesse Jones is listed If his Granddaughter has a photo she could share that would be very much appreciated 2. Its an alphabetical list of all Skippers and Chief Skippers and includes second hands made up to Skipper. Includes all WSA SA and DA numbered Skippers Includes the boats they served on -at least as complete as I could make it from the Navy Lists- rather than an alphabetical list of the boats. Includes vessels lost and who the Skipper on board was Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalebone Posted 19 January , 2015 Share Posted 19 January , 2015 Jesse Joneses exploits on Q Ships and also in the Second war are a good read, I will talk to her and let you know, she has the DSC and proudly wears it on Remembrance Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iandunn Posted 28 January , 2015 Share Posted 28 January , 2015 Do you know if trawlers requisitioned as minesweepers where classed as r nr or r n,and does your good book contain details of any minesweepers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 31 January , 2015 Share Posted 31 January , 2015 Whalebone. Find here the award to Skipper Jones & the award to mentioned Gibbon for same incident. GIBBON Charles J N/E S/Lt. RNVR 83P006 Ariadne 11 A.O.P 13.09.15 Gazetted In Armed Trawlers against Enemy Submarines 11.07.15 DSC & specially promoted to Lt. R.N.R 11.07.15 Conducted a running fight with a German submarine, and though severely wounded refused to give up command to the Skipper until wounded a second time and disabled. JONES Jessie N/E Skipper RNR 83P006 Ariadne 11 A.O.P 13.09.15 Gazetted In Armed Trawlers against Enemy Submarines 11.07.15 DSC Conducted a running fight with a German submarine, and though severely wounded refused to give up command to the Skipper until wounded a second time and disabled.Took charge after S/Lieutenant Gibbon was disabled and acted with creditable resolution till the submarine disappeared. See - S/Lt. Gibbon - 83P006 Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalebone Posted 31 January , 2015 Share Posted 31 January , 2015 Sadsac Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 1 February , 2015 Share Posted 1 February , 2015 Hi Simon, Anyone of the name of West in the book? sJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 1 February , 2015 Share Posted 1 February , 2015 There are eight RNR skippers with surname WEST (BT 377 at Kew), all but one of them born in Banffshire/Aberdeenshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 1 February , 2015 Share Posted 1 February , 2015 Not the one being sought from Kerry, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoneyre Posted 2 February , 2015 Author Share Posted 2 February , 2015 The trawlers requisitioned formed the trawler section of the Royal Naval Reserve. My book will detail the Skippers of these Some other minesweepers did have Skippers on board but largely commanded by RNR or RN Lieutenants I have 16 West listed Do you have a Christian name or service number Jane? Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 2 February , 2015 Share Posted 2 February , 2015 Afraid not Simon. As per another thread on the Ships and Navies forum there is a newspaper reference for a Vice-Admiral West who is reported as having died in the service of his country in the Dardanelles, absolutely nil other information except that his son lived in Kerry. All other avenues have been explored and found to be dead ends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoneyre Posted 3 February , 2015 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2015 Hi Jane these are all the Wests I have listed with the service numbers, seniority and vessels served on in case that gives any lead They are only those of RNR Skipper or Chief Skipper rank Simon Temp. Skr. Alexander Shand West W.S.A. 987 SBV 11-Jan-15 Redrift Redrift Duthies Melinka Temp. Skr. Andrew West W.S.A. 785 BV 02-Jan-15 Resono Wheat Stalk Wheat Stalk Scot Temp. Skr. Charles West S.A. 955 SBV 27-Dec-17 Brochhead Temp. Skr. Charles John West S.A. 1627 SBV Not.W.S. 22-Mar-18 Olympia Temp. Skr. Edward West D.A. 12739 BV 27-Dec-17 Bombardier Temp. Skr. Frank West W.S.A. 877 SBV 12-Jan-15 Willow Bank Willow Bank Auld Lang Syne Fern Temp. Skr. George West W.S.A. 493 SBV 03-Nov-14 Flicker Killed 04-Mar-16 Temp. Skr. George West S.A. 954 SBV 30-Aug-15 Pittulae Pittulae Temp. Skr. George Andrew West W.S.A. 1318 SBV 27-Mar-15 Leonard Leonard Leonard Leonard Temp. Skr. George Francis West S.A. 2843 BV 12-Aug-18 Temp. Skr. James West W.S.A. 1171 SBV 01-Mar-15 George A. West George A. West George A. West George A. West Died Illness 13-Nov-18 Temp. Skr. James West S.A. 1644 SBV 15-Sep-17 Invalided 23-Oct-17 S.W.B. RN11206 Temp. Skr. (F.R.) James Henry West W.F.S. 329 B 31-Aug-17 Irwell Warrant Cancelled 17-Dec-17 Temp. Skr. William West W.S.A. 876 SBV 14-Jan-15 Thermopylae Thermopylae Thermopylae Thermopylae Temp. Skr. William West W.S.A. 1459 SBV 16-Apr-15 Coulard Hill Coulard Hill Coulard Hill Coulard Hill Temp. Skr. William Charles West S.A. 487 SBV 01-Jan-15 Sea King Sea King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 February , 2015 Share Posted 3 February , 2015 Thanks Simon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terryr Posted 23 February , 2015 Share Posted 23 February , 2015 Hi I have just joined after seeing a question dated July 2013 from Chasray regarding a grimsby skipper George McCloud have no Idea how to contact this member but have all the information he needs as was a relation contact me barkter@hotmail.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 4 March , 2015 Share Posted 4 March , 2015 For anyone interested there is a book published which I have written on Trawler Skippers in WW1 Its mainly about their medals but other topics are covered as well and a full listing of the Skippers is there Hope it might be of interest to some of you http://www.omrs.org.uk/OrderProduct_72.asp?Action=Order&Customer_Id=77665353&ref= Simon Simon, I am going to get your book for my birthday but I would prefer to have it with your signature in it. Can you think of a way for me to do this ? On another matter I have just purchased a mangled victory medal said to be named to W.S.A. 321 G. SMITH. SKR. R.N.R. There is a dreadful edge knock. G. SMIT is readable but there seems to be quite a gap between this and where the SKR. starts. So it could be SMITHERS or something else. Can you confirm what it is, please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 4 March , 2015 Share Posted 4 March , 2015 Skipper George SMITH, 321.WSA [RNR Medal Roll]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 5 March , 2015 Share Posted 5 March , 2015 Skipper George SMITH, 321.WSA [RNR Medal Roll]. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Munson Posted 5 March , 2015 Share Posted 5 March , 2015 SMITH, George, Skipper, Certificate No. 6613 (Issued 15/09/1903) Former Sea Fishing Apprentice - signed indentures 25 Aug. 1888 Pre-war skipper of Grimsby trawlers: Hawk GY 46, 1904 - 1905 and Phoenix GY 21, 1906 -1913 DoB 30 Aug 1874. Married with six children. Service record LINK Terry NB.The Phoenix was captured and sunk by UC 16 (Egon von Werner) along with five other Grimsby trawlers, 23 September 1916, and another five Grimsby trawlers the following day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 6 March , 2015 Share Posted 6 March , 2015 Terry. Thank you for the information. Much appreciated. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Pacey Posted 19 December , 2016 Share Posted 19 December , 2016 On 17/01/2015 at 08:46, simoneyre said: For anyone interested there is a book published which I have written on Trawler Skippers in WW1 Its mainly about their medals but other topics are covered as well and a full listing of the Skippers is there Hope it might be of interest to some of you http://www.omrs.org.uk/OrderProduct_72.asp?Action=Order&Customer_Id=77665353&ref= Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Pacey Posted 19 December , 2016 Share Posted 19 December , 2016 Hi Simon, I'm interested in purchasing a copy of this book, if you could give me the title. The link provided doesn't seem to work. I'm researching the war history of a relative, who was briefly a skipper of the 'Donside', before being sent to the Western Front. I've been able to obtain some information of his Army career from the 'burn't records', but have had little luck with his Navy records. Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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