Terry Carter Posted 13 July , 2007 Share Posted 13 July , 2007 Hello all A friend at work has lent me a photo of his grandfather who served in the Great War. He does not know anything about, except that he died a few years after the war. His name was Charles Albert Payne from Birmingham. Checking the Medal Card Index I have found a BQMS Charles Albert Payne 14054 Royal Field Artillery. Could this be him? Does the rank in the photograph match that of a BQMS ? Is the cap badge a standard RFA badge or might the scroll below the crown be for "Warwickshire" i.e the Warwickshire Royal Field Artillery. On his tunic sleeve. What does the cloth badge above his stripes signify? Thanks Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 13 July , 2007 Share Posted 13 July , 2007 I am not an RHA RFA expert but yes, I believe him to be a Battery QMS. The gun badge is standard for all full sergeants and above RA, much as the grenade for RE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 13 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2007 Thanks Grumpy. I have now down loaded the MIC for BQMS C A Payne. He served in 34 Bde RFA and his qualifying date for his Star was 16 August 1914. Is there any 34 BDE RFA experts out there? Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trin1054 Posted 13 July , 2007 Share Posted 13 July , 2007 Hi Terry, not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I've had a look at the relevant war diaries before (relative in the same Brigade) and they are complete and very detailed: WO 95/1324 34 Brigade Royal Field Artillery 1914 Aug. - 1917 Apr. WO 95/385 34 Army Field Artillery Brigade 1917 May - 1919 Apr. They were attached to 2nd Division until reorgansiation into Army Field Artillery Brigade, January 1917. Saw plenty of action, I think. Little bit of discussion here Cheers, Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 14 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2007 Thanks Marc I will see if I can get copies of the War Dary from the Nat Archives Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 14 July , 2007 Share Posted 14 July , 2007 Such a fine portrait I thought it worthy of the colour treatment! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battiscombe Posted 14 July , 2007 Share Posted 14 July , 2007 BQMS Charles Albert Payne (14054) of 50th Bty 34th Brigade was I believe killed 14th september 1914 on the Aisne so this would appear not to be him - but I can't get into the the CWGC site at this moment to check david Such a fine portrait I thought it worthy of the colour treatment! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bennitt Posted 14 July , 2007 Share Posted 14 July , 2007 Indeed, but not apparently a Birmingham man cheers Martin B Battery Quartermaster Serjeant CHARLES ALBERT PAYNE 14054, 50th Bty., Royal Field Artillery who died age 33 on 14 September 1914 Son of the late Samuel Payne, of Shoreham, Sussex; husband of Elizabeth Payne, of 34, Widley St., Cosham, Hants. Remembered with honour LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 14 July , 2007 Share Posted 14 July , 2007 What medal ribbn is he wearing? Looks TF to me by the cloth crown and gun badges and the lanyard. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 15 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 July , 2007 Hello all Thats a fine job you did there Ian colourising the picture. Martin B..... I am glad that you checked him on Soldiers Died. Thanks for that. Now I had better check at work again to make sure I got his christian names correctly. His surname is Payne. The photograph was took in Hudson Studios, Birmingham in 1919. Is he a BQMS or a BSM? I also had a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 15 July , 2007 Share Posted 15 July , 2007 There are few posibilities which you have no doubt explored. The issue of the 14 star gives a date for the picture. Payne, William Edward Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery Regiment No: 157371 Rank: Battery Quarter Master Serjeant Payne, Harry Corps: Royal Horse Artillery Regiment No: 96381 Rank: Battery Quarter Master Serjeant... Payne, Harold Corps: Royal Field Artillery Regiment No: 41324 Rank: Corporal... Payne, Edward Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery Regiment No: 19367 Rank: Gunner... Payne, Charles George Corps: Royal Field Artillery Regiment No: 851314 Rank: Battery Quarter Master Serjeant... Payne, Charles Albert Corps: Royal Field Artillery Regiment No: 14054 Rank: Quarter Master Serjeant... Payne, Albert Corps: Royal Field Artillery Regiment No: 57675 Rank: Corporal... Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 15 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 July , 2007 Thanks Roop I will make certain to his corect name later this week. Cheers Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Carter Posted 18 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 18 July , 2007 I have now got the correct details from the Medal Cards Cpl Albert Payne 57675 RFA BQMS Albert Payne 57675 RFA Star qualifying Date 6 November 1914. 45th Bde RFA Can anyone help with 45 Bde RFA history? Thanks Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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