Zeppelin LZ85 brought down at Salonika

[Guest Pete Wood]

A friend of mine also said their was a book called "Zeppelins and Jellied eels", however, I do not know what Zeppelin information is included withing the book as it seems more like a diary of a ladies life.

Do you have a copy of the German airships in WW1 by John Provan. He has just done another printing, I managed to get hold of a copy a couple of weeks ago - a fabulous reference book.

Forget the 'Jellied Eels' book. You are spot on with the content.

The Provan book is one I have not read. I'll have to find a copy, as you seem to recommend it.

[Guest Captain Pikey]

Hi Pete,

Many thanks for confirming my suspicions concerning jellied eels!

The John Provan book, I believe was originally a doctor's thesis. Their are line drawings of each Zeppelin, and the book is filled with information, tables charts concerning flights, crews etc. I think from memory their are only two photos, but the information contained in the book is very good. It compliments the information provided within the Zeppelin in Combat book.

I will try to provide you with more information later in the week, when I have more time.

Take care

Kind regards

Ian

[Adrian Roberts]

Ian

Thanks for the offer of the Zeppelins over Bury book - yes, I'd be delighted. I'll email you with my home address - not that I don't trust forum members but you never know who else is watching. Unfortunately my email system is u/s at present and ntl can't do anything about it till November 18th as they are updating their diagnostics or something, so I'll contact you after that. I live in South East London/ Kent area so anything Zeppelin related to that area would be great. I can't think of much, except that the first airship flight in Britain was made by Stanley Spencer in a homebuilt ship from Crystal Palace in 1902.

Adrian

[Guest Pete Wood]

Have you been collecting the small local booklets produced in recent years concerning Zeppelin raids?

I know from previous posts that you already know about 'A glint in the sky'. Their is also another about a valley where a Zeppelin raided but I cannot remember the title.

Do you know of any more?

Story of the Zeppelin Raid on Eldon (the Dene Valley) 5th/6th April 1916, by Margaret Beith (privately published).

I have just managed to locate Ms Beith, and hope to secure a copy.

[Guest Captain Pikey]

Hi Adrian,

No Problem!

I will put a copy by for you. Let me know your address as and when your email is back up again.

We share a common interest, as I live in Dover and so this general area is of interest to me also.

Take care

Kind regards

Ian

[Guest Captain Pikey]

Hi Pete,

Many thanks for the email.

I have replied this evening.

Take care

Kind regards

Ian

[Adrian Roberts]

Ian

I've sent you an email.

Two points of interest that I may as well put on the public forum:

1] : Did Hauptmann Scherzer attack Salonika by day or by night? If by day, surely a bit unwise given that this had been established as a BAD IDEA early on in the war.

2] Your LZ85 site has a picture of the results of a raid on Streatham - so there was Zeppelin activity over my area, Sarf Lunnun, as well as the better known ones North of the Thames. I shall have to do some research (?when)

Adrian

[Guest Pete Wood]

Your LZ85 site has a picture of the results of a raid on Streatham - so there was Zeppelin activity over my area, Sarf Lunnun, as well as the better known ones North of the Thames. I shall have to do some research (?when)

Adrian

Adrian, under the old boundaries, Streatham was (I believe) part of Wandsworth. Today it comes under Lambeth.

Either way, the Streatham borough was bombed many times (seven to be exact).

I am just starting to put all the information down on a street-by-street basis. Give me a little time, but I should soon be able to tell you everything you ever wanted to know (and, hopefully, more).

[Guest Captain Pikey]

Hi Adrian

Thank you for your email, it came through no problem.

I sent the booklet off today along with photocopies of the Zeppelins over Streatham booklet - hope this will be usefull for your research.

With regards to the LZ85, the attack was during the night. Mind you even under the cover of darkness I certainly wouldn't have had the guts to do it. Unfortunately. they were picked up by searchlights and met their demise. At least they were more fortunate than other Zeppelin crews brought down during the war.

I hope I have helped you a little.

Hope to speak to you soon.

Take care

Kind regards

Ian

[Guest BERNARD G]

Dear Capt. Your correspondence on the LZ85 seems a bit old but perhaps you would like to know that I

have been collecting info on this subject since I aquired the Compass about 15 years ago.are you still active?

[reeve.mj]

Hi,

I have been researching the Zeppelin LZ85 that was brought down at Salonika on the 5th May 1916. I have a small website sort of devoted to the subject www.lolly.freeserve.co.uk I have recently found that forums can work as I have received quite a bit of extra information from the Aerodrome forum. I was bored at work and stumbled across this great forum. If anyone has any further information, I would be eternally grateful. I am particularly looking for a copy of the interrogation report, pictures, personal stories of the raids conducted on Salonika etc. I am also trying to find out more about HMS Canning that brought the wreckage back to Barrow in Furness and the torpedo boat that was also involved.

I am sorry for being a pain in the bum, but I would realy apreciate the help.

Kind regards

Ian

Ian

If you are still active and interested in this subject. My Grandfather Arthur Reeve was on the TB 18 at the time and he always claimed that the TB18 had fired first on the Zeppelin LZ85 and hit it (he had a peice of it). He claimed that the Agamemnon joined in by firing later. The TB18's captain put in his claim but the Agamemnon "pulled rank on them" and sent a message to the TB18 selling them to "back off from any claim". He mentioned this many times to his family so the incident must have annoyed the crew and officers greatly at the time. Arthur was an Engine Room Artificer and went ashore at Salonika at the time. He was also there at the time of the "Great Fire" and with other engineers was sent ashore to help to restore essential services. If you or anybody knows of any other information on TB 18 or her crew. I would be very interested.

Mike Reeve

Mike Reeve

[Jempie]

Hello!

Pete Wood!

If you like all airships worldwide, go once to www.earlyaviator.com....you can visit his airship pictures, mine (worldwide ones , and from other contributors with submitted photos.

I know John Provan (however we lost contact since a few years) Harry Redner and many others involved into airship history matters...

But I am not specialised into WWI history!I collected more photo's or pictures from airships...I have quite good photobook on the Italian ones, and I am missing a bit the Russians too...

But British, French and German ones are good represented into my own home collection.

Have notions about WWI., but that's all!

vbr

Jempie

[Guest peelk]

My great-aunt, a Canadian nursing sister stationed then in Salonika, often told the story of seeing the Zeppelin shot down by the HMS Agamemnon!!

[Guest KaisersSenta]

Hello, everyone: New to site and I have a question. I just purchased a small picture frame made from the wreckage of the LZ85. It has 'LZ85' engraved at the top; 'Salonika' on the left side; '5th May 1916' at the bottom; and 'Orient' engraved on the right side. Inside the frame is an old photo of the wreckage. I was just wondering what the significance of 'Orient' was. I collect WWI Trench Art and also have some wreckage from the L3 zeppelin that took part in the first bombing of England in 1915 and crashed on a Danish island.

[Neil Mackenzie]

The allied force in Salonika was known as the 'Allied Army of the Orient' (thanks to Google).

Neil

[redbarchetta]

Welcome to the Forum! I also collect WW1 trench art - www.trenchart.co.uk

I think, in Tommy's eyes, anything to the right of Italy was strange and Oriental!!

James

[James A Pratt III]

Good info on the LZ85. The Minsk and Riga raids were against the Railroads. The War in the Air mentions the Salonika raids a few OR and Greeks were killed and a British ammo dump was near missed.

[Guest Mags]

Hi Ian just saw your message about LZ 85 you have probably already come across the pictures I posted to another web site my grandmothers husband had taken the pictures while he was there. I also have several pieces of the Lz85 one which is in the shape of a cross with the letters Lz85 stamped in it and the date on the other side . 

 

Regards Maggie