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First Officer Killed 1914?


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Officially:

Name: PERRY, EVELYN WALTER COPLAND

Initials: E W C

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Second Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps

Age: 23

Date of Death: 16/08/1914

Additional information: Son of Walter Copland Perry, M.A., Ph.D., Barrister-at-Law, and Evelyn F. Perry (nee Stopford), of 29, Thurloe Square, South Kensington, London. The first British Officer killed on active service in France during the Great War.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: 7.

Cemetery: ST. ACHEUL FRENCH NATIONAL CEMETERY, AMIENS

"Royal Aircraft Factory BE.8

The B.E.8 was the fourth and final rotary-powered Bleriot Experimental tractor plane to be developed by the Royal Aircraft Factory. The prototype first flew in August 1913, and limited production began soon thereafter.

Built by Vickers and originally intended for the Central Flying School at Sitapur, India, BE.8 625 was impressed to the Royal Flying Corps upon the outbreak of war. It received a hastily painted camouflage on 8 August 1914, and was among the first British planes sent to France, arriving with 3 Squadron at Amiens on 14 August. 625 was also among the first British planes to be 'struck off charge', when on 16 August it stalled at 150 feet, crashed and caught fire- killing Lieutenant Evelyn Walter Copland Perry and Air Mechanic H.E. Parfitt. Perry, an experienced test-pilot and aircraft designer who personally trained Air Marshall Hugh Montague Trenchard how to fly, earned the unfortunate distinction of being the first British officer killed on active service in France. The last B.E.8 was withdrawn from front-line service by end of June 1915, though the type lingered on a few months more in various training units."

Not Thomas de Burgh!

 

Steve.

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Second Lieutenant R R Skene of Number 3 Squadron has a claim to be the first officer to lose his life in the war when he took off from Netheravon Airfield to fly to France on August 12, dying when his Blériot hit trees. His passenger, Keith Barlow, also died. Four days later, the same squadron's Second Lieutenant E W C Perry became the first British officer to die on active service in France, as Steve details above.

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A famous early officer casualty:

Name: DEASE, MAURICE JAMES

Initials: M J

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers

Unit Text: 4th Bn.

Age: 24

Date of Death: 23/08/1914

Awards: VC

Additional information: Son of Edmund F. and Katherine M. Dease, of Levington, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath. One of the first British officer battle casualties of the war and the first posthumous recipient of the VC of the war.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: V. B. 2.

Cemetery: ST. SYMPHORIEN MILITARY CEMETERY

Citation: An extract from "The London Gazette," dated 16th Nov., 1914. records the following:- "Though two or three times badly wounded he continued to control the fire of his machine guns at Mons on 23rd Aug., until all his men were shot. He died of his wounds."

Steve.

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Second Lieutenant R R Skene of Number 3 Squadron has a claim to be the first officer to lose his life in the war when he took off from Netheravon Airfield to fly to France on August 12, dying when his Blériot hit trees. His passenger, Keith Barlow, also died.

As documented in 'Flying Fury' by James McCudden

Jerry

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You need to define the question a little more.

Killed in action on the Western Front?

Killed in action anywhere?

Died on active service of any cause?

Etc Etc

The first British officer to be killed in action was Lt George Masterman THOMPSON 1st Bn, Royal Scots attd Gold Coast Regt. Killed in action 22.08.14 in West Africa. He is now the only Commonwealth war grave in Togo.

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On the record for Thomas De Burgh it says

Nationality: Indian

I guess this is a mispelling of Irish?

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John

No it is not.

The nationality refers to the unit and not the man. His regiment is an Indian unit and so 'Indian' is correct.

CWGC would have no knowledge of casualties' personal nationality and could not record it. Each record has to be allocated to one of the member nations of CWGC so that financial contributions can be calculated. This is done by allocating each unit a 'nationality' according to origins of the unit.

This is a common misunderstanding. You can read an explanation of this on the CWGC website.

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I can look up details over the weekend in Stand Too.

I had problems finding the article so apologies for delay but he was killed in September 1914. My mistake.

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John

No it is not.

The nationality refers to the unit and not the man. His regiment is an Indian unit and so 'Indian' is correct.

CWGC would have no knowledge of casualties' personal nationality and could not record it. Each record has to be allocated to one of the member nations of CWGC so that financial contributions can be calculated. This is done by allocating each unit a 'nationality' according to origins of the unit.

This is a common misunderstanding. You can read an explanation of this on the CWGC website.

My apologises and many thanks for clearing that up for me Terry

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