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Boy, is the artillery confusing !

My great great uncle was a 2Lt apparently in the 151st Heavy Brigade in Durham and Darlington.

151st HB was then designated as 36th Brigade, RGA ??

I want to find out which Infantry division my grandfathers batteries servied with between 1916 and 1919and what battles and campaigns he took part in. I'd also like to get some photo's of 151 HB in the Northeast or abroad.

His Medal Index card (Pair) says he went to France in June 16.

He was commissioned on 1.9.17.

He came from Ely in cambridgeshire and died in 1983 aged 91.

Please help ?

Thanks

Peter :D:D

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Hi Peter,

Over 20 hours without a reply to your post, shame on us. In fairness I think a lot of artillery buffs could be on holiday. Anyway in their absence here’s my pennies worth:

151st Heavy Battery consisted of 4 x 60 pounder guns. Made up to 6x 60 pounder guns with one section joining from 201st HB in Jan 1917. They went out to the Western Front on 19th June 1916 joining 10th HAG 22/06/16 second army. to 57th HAG 10/09/16; to 54th HAG 29/12/16. (actually joined 1/1/17). To 39th HAG 12/02/17; to 58th HAG 30/05/17; to 8th HAG 9/06/17; to 39th HAG 16/06/17; to 11th HAG 24/09/17; to a well earned one months rest and refit 15/11/17-18/12/17 when finally they joined 36th HAG with no subsequent changes. The 151 war diary for the period June 1916- June 1917 is reference WO95/318 online. All bar two of the HAG diaries appear to be also available covering the correct periods. I have not seen his MIC’s but if he was promoted from the ranks this might well have coincided with a transfer.

Regards Paul

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Hello

did he live in Ely ? There are a few pals on the forum from this part of the world and the local paper is pretty good for ww1 pics etc

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Peter,

The 151st(Darlington)Heavy Bty,R.G.A. was raised by the Lord Mayor & Borough on 1st October 1915 and transferred to War Office administration the following February 1916. One of it's former buildings the old Technical College can still be seen to this day.

By November 1918 it was serving with 36th(Australian)Bde(Mixed),R.G.A. with the 2nd Army. The Bde consisted of the following units;-

140th(Heavy)Bty,R.G.A. - 6x 60pdr guns.

151st(D/ton)Hvy Bty,R.G.A. - 6x 60pdr guns.

155th(Siege)Bty,R.G.A. - 6x 6inch Howitzers.

353rd(Siege)Bty,R.G.A. - 6x 6inch Howitzers.

1st(Aust)Siege Bty - 6x 8inch Howitzers.

2nd(Aust)Siege Bty, - 6x 9.2inch Howitzers.

Graham.

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Nice applicable little extract from “Distant Guns, a young Darlington man throughout the Great war” concerning another Lieutenant in the same battery. Hayden Foster MC:

-the Mayor of Darlington, Alderman Harbottle needed officers for an artillery unit that he was raising to carry the Town s name in France and they sent application forms. He applied, was commissioned in December 1915 as a second lieutenant and had 6 months training in gunnery, horsemanship, Morse code and leadership. The Darlington Battery, the 151st Heavy fought at the Somme throughout the autumn of 1916.

His Military Cross was awarded for gallantry in front line trenches on a hill near Arras, where as forward observation officer he was directing artillery fire. The citation reads "He rallied a party of infantry who were without leaders and held off an enemy counter attack. Although severely wounded he remained in charge of his observation party and directed their withdrawal under heavy fire to a fresh position". After surviving further action, wounding and 2 gas attacks Hayden was discharged on 3 April 1919 with the rank of lieutenant.

Regards Paul

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Hello,

When the BEF wnet to France in 1914 the 60 pdr was part of divisional artillery. As the BEF grew the artillery was reorganised and the 60 pdr was withdrawn from divsions.

Old Tom

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Boy, is the artillery confusing !

My great great uncle was a 2Lt apparently in the 151st Heavy Brigade in Durham and Darlington.

151st HB was then designated as 36th Brigade, RGA ??

I want to find out which Infantry division my grandfathers batteries servied with between 1916 and 1919and what battles and campaigns he took part in. I'd also like to get some photo's of 151 HB in the Northeast or abroad.

His Medal Index card (Pair) says he went to France in June 16.

He was commissioned on 1.9.17.

He came from Ely in cambridgeshire and died in 1983 aged 91.

Please help ?

Thanks

Peter :D:D

Peter,

My sympathies. I, too, am confused by the Royal (RGA) Artillery.

My Grandfather, 150493 Gnr William McKegg, went to France in December 1915. He was born in Barrow In Furness in 1878. I know he was awarded the 1915 trio but am at a loss as to which battery, brigade, battles, campaigns etc he took part in.

I'm also a (very) new member and haven't yet got the hang of posting etc so apologies if I've done it wrong.

Mabel

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Hi Peter,

Over 20 hours without a reply to your post, shame on us. In fairness I think a lot of artillery buffs could be on holiday. Anyway in their absence here’s my pennies worth:

151st Heavy Battery consisted of 4 x 60 pounder guns. Made up to 6x 60 pounder guns with one section joining from 201st HB in Jan 1917. They went out to the Western Front on 19th June 1916 joining 10th HAG 22/06/16 second army. to 57th HAG 10/09/16; to 54th HAG 29/12/16. (actually joined 1/1/17). To 39th HAG 12/02/17; to 58th HAG 30/05/17; to 8th HAG 9/06/17; to 39th HAG 16/06/17; to 11th HAG 24/09/17; to a well earned one months rest and refit 15/11/17-18/12/17 when finally they joined 36th HAG with no subsequent changes. The 151 war diary for the period June 1916- June 1917 is reference WO95/318 online. All bar two of the HAG diaries appear to be also available covering the correct periods. I have not seen his MIC’s but if he was promoted from the ranks this might well have coincided with a transfer.

Regards Paul

Paul - many thanks - is HAG...Heavy Artillery Group ? Any idea which Infantry Divisions and Brigades he would have supported and which western front battles he would have been engaged in ?

I'd like to get a picture of him an Officers group picture of the 15st - how likley would this be, do you think ?

Regards Peter :D

Peter,

My sympathies. I, too, am confused by the Royal (RGA) Artillery.

My Grandfather, 150493 Gnr William McKegg, went to France in December 1915. He was born in Barrow In Furness in 1878. I know he was awarded the 1915 trio but am at a loss as to which battery, brigade, battles, campaigns etc he took part in.

I'm also a (very) new member and haven't yet got the hang of posting etc so apologies if I've done it wrong.

Mabel

Thanks to everyone for some great responses and answers.

Regards Peter :blink:

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  • 4 years later...
Guest ColinBainbridge

I have a photograph of the 151st Darlington Heavy Battery RGA dated March 1916, which was taken at the rear of the old Technical College in Gladstone Street which Graham mentioned.

It is available in my Darlington History gallery.

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  • 6 years later...

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