reevemjr Posted 12 June , 2009 Share Posted 12 June , 2009 The SS Kelvingrove took the 121(H) battery to Harve in February 1915 from Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevemjr Posted 12 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 12 June , 2009 The SS Kelvingrove took the 121(H) battery to Harve in February 1915 from Southampton. I have searched in vain for a photograph under the name SS Kelvingrove, Mecuria and Caxias, but have had no luck. She was requisitioned in 1914 and may have been a regular transport for troops an equipment to France during the war. Does anyone have a connection with this ship or perhaps a photograph, as I am trying to trace records of a Richard Shrive who went on her to France on the 13th February 1915. I have found some references to her origins, builder and change of names but no other references to her voyage than the ones below. Richard Shrive Army Record - 1915 0215-0615 overseas service with 121(H) Bty RGA This is the only reference to her voyage in 1915 I have found. 1915 February 13 – Friday - Arrived Charlton Terrace after spending night at home, to find battery had moved off early in morning took up kit etc. and hurried off to Woolwich Arsenal station to catch them up got there in time alright (7,20am) to find nearly all horses wagons etc. packed on trains (2) ready for Southhampton. Left Woolwich about 8.30, after a roundabout journey arrived at S'hampton about 1pm. Embarked on the S.S. Kelvingrove. [Dad's Diary by Gunner Roads - 121 (Heavy) Battery] 1915 February 14 – Sunday - Stayed in dock all day Sunday leaving about 4pm for Havre. Woke up and found we were anchored off that port. [Dad's Diary by Gunner Roads - 121 (Heavy) Battery] 1915 February 15 –Monday - Monday morning pilot took us into Dock and was all day and best part of night getting horses, guns, wagons and all our gear on land. [Dad's Diary by Gunner Roads - 121 (Heavy) Battery] Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightspirit Posted 12 June , 2009 Share Posted 12 June , 2009 Mike If you can let me know who built the ship I might be able to tell you where the surviving builder's records (if any still exist) are held. Quite often photographs are held in the archives with the builder's records. Dave W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 12 June , 2009 Share Posted 12 June , 2009 Mike If you can let me know who built the ship I might be able to tell you where the surviving builder's records (if any still exist) are held. Quite often photographs are held in the archives with the builder's records. Dave W With a name like that, she might have been built on Clydeside or, at least, for a Scottish line like Donaldson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 12 June , 2009 Share Posted 12 June , 2009 Hi, As per the Miramar Ship Index, here's the skinny on the Kelvingrove: Single Ship Report for "1111222" IDNo: 1111222 Year: 1899 Name: KELVINGROVE Launch Date: 30.5.99 Type: Cargo ship Date of completion: 10.99 Flag: GBR Keel: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tons: 3092 Link: 1258 DWT: Yard No: 366 Length overall: Ship Design: LPP: 101.5 Country of build: GBR Beam: 13.7 Builder: McMillan Material of build: Location of yard: Dumbarton Number of screws/Mchy/ Speed(kn): 1T-10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Owner as Completed: Glasgow Stm Sg Co Ltd (J.Black), Glasgow Naval or paramilitary marking : A: * End: 1960 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subsequent History: 15 MERCURIA - 26 INES - 33 CARUARU - 34 CAXIAS Disposal Data: BU Rio de Janeiro 12.60 According to the National Archives: Glasgow Steam Shipping Co Ltd GB/NNAF/C107949 (Former ISAAR ref: GB/NNAF/B11268) Location of Related Collections Scope 1894-1967: minute books, register of members, reports, accounts, balances, ship records Repository: Glasgow City Archives Record Reference TD49 link to online catalogue NRA catalogue reference NRA 15410 Donaldson Bros Let the search continue! -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightspirit Posted 13 June , 2009 Share Posted 13 June , 2009 Also, try Strathclyde Regional Archives and Dumbarton Public Library. Dave W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecktec Posted 13 June , 2009 Share Posted 13 June , 2009 KELVINGROVE - 3,092-tons with dimensions of 333.0 x 45.0 – cargo ship built by A. McMillan & Sons, Ltd., Dumbarton completed in October 1899 as yard No.366 - Official No.111222 for Glasgow Steam Shipping Co., Ltd. (J. Black & Co.), Glasgow 1915 renamed MERCURIA by Donaldson Line, Ltd. (Donaldson Bros., Ltd.), Glasgow 1920 - Letricheux Line, Ltd. (Letricheux & David, Ltd.), Swansea 1920 - Brynymor SS. Co., Ltd. (s/m) 1922 - Pridmore & Roe, Swansea 1926 - INES M. G. Nicolich, Rio Grande do Sul BZ 1933 renamed CARUARÚ by Carlos Ozorio, Rio de Janeiro 1934 renamed CAXIAS by Cia. Carbonifera Rio Grandense, Rio de Janeiro 1943 - Cia. Commercio e Navegação, Rio de Janeiro 1957 - Navegação Mercantil, S.A., Rio de Janeiro Broken up c. Dec 1960 at Rio de Janeiro by Cia. Metallurgica Austin Cheers Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevemjr Posted 13 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2009 Mike If you can let me know who built the ship I might be able to tell you where the surviving builder's records (if any still exist) are held. Quite often photographs are held in the archives with the builder's records. Dave W Dave Thank you for the offer. It would be very helpful to know if they do have a picture. There has been a lot of information posted on this topic and it all helps. The record I have is: A 3,092 gross ton ship, built 1899 by A. McMillan & Son, Dumbarton for Glasgow Steam Shipping Co (J. Black & Co), Glasgow. July 1915 sold to Donaldson Line Ltd, Glasgow. I also have since discovered that a 'Kelvingrove' was involved in transporting horses and mules to South Africa from the Boer war in 1899 and 1901. She could transport some 500 animals! Thanks to everyone for the information. With the Kelvingrove's history there must have been a photograph taken at some point. Mike Reeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightspirit Posted 14 June , 2009 Share Posted 14 June , 2009 Hi Mike The only other option is to try to find a fleet history of the Donaldson Line. Give Southampton Reference Library a ring and ask for special collections - they will tell you if such a work exists and if so, they are likely to have it on the shelf. Dave W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 14 June , 2009 Share Posted 14 June , 2009 There is a history of "Donaldson Line of Glasgow" by P.J. Telford pub. 1989 (google Booklover Oxford)). The Mitchell Library in Glasgow may have archive files. The Glasgow Museum of Transport and the Glasgow Art Galley and Museum also have extensive collections of ships models and plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 14 June , 2009 Share Posted 14 June , 2009 Not strictly relevant except in the name she bore see Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 14 June , 2009 Share Posted 14 June , 2009 Not strictly relevant except in the name she bore see Aye Malcolm Now you've just made me very homesick thinking of my boyhood in Glasgow and wandering through the Kelvingrove after a bevy at the Park Bar or the Sikorski Club. Yours aye, AntonyCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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