Tyneside Chinaman Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Hi My very good friend Graham Stewart bought the attached "Northumberland Fusiliers" card on ebay but when it arrived it is obviousley Royal Fusilers so Graham gave it to me for my collection. The group appear to be wearing different cloth shoulder titles. The man at the rear has a dak title with darker letters pos Red on Green? Whilst the man kneeling at the left has a light coloured title with dark letters. The second man seated on the left appears to have something below the title. Are they 1 a company indicator or 2 different battalions? There is no indication of where the photo was taken any ideas? 60th Div at Sutton Veny? Any help greatly received regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 I am not so sure they are RF: might be GG, as they are almost as smart as RWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Hi got your PM re Graham will speak to him tonight. I agree tha GG is a possibility but the GG titles are white letters on red with square ends to the title as per the attached Grenadier John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Thank you for that. I was only going on the cap badges ... they don't look quite right for RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John84 Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 John I know very little regarding cap badges, but to hazard a guess, does the Honourable Artillery Company seem feasible. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 The only problem I have with the GG theory is that I have never seen the Guards wearing leather equipment. I'm sure someone will now post one but have a look at the rest of the group in close up John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 John hello I dont think they are HAC look at the attached from Kipling and King there grenade is similar to the Grenadiers but with HAC added John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 The last lot of photos has swayed me back to RF ..... the gap-toothed guy has the distinctive pointy bit on the top [no, not on top of his head!] .... I think the top of the badge in some cases is obscured by the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 2 March , 2008 Share Posted 2 March , 2008 Did we come to any conclusions? I fear not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 2 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 March , 2008 Sorry I've been away, no no replies re the titles I am sure they are RF but its the titles I would like to know more about. The London Regiment seem to have had a scheme of titles of various colours. Ray Westlake and Mike Chappell's Territorial Units 14 /18 shows two on Plate F. But nothing about the scheme as whole. regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 2 March , 2008 Share Posted 2 March , 2008 have you tried Joe Sweeney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 2 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 March , 2008 I am afraid I don't know him. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 2 March , 2008 Share Posted 2 March , 2008 I think they may be men from London TF and/ or reserve battalions. These Bns had quite a varied range of cloth title shape, colour and format. I've emboldened one possibility: 1st Bn London Regt (RF): Red letters on white - 1st LONDON RF (arc shape); 1st Reserve Bn London Regt: White letters on khaki - 1st (RES) LONDON/ RF (in a T shape); 2nd Bn London Regt (RF) - A: Red letters on dark blue - 2nd LONDON REGT(no idea as to shape); 2nd Bn London Regt (RF) - B: Red letters on dark blue - 2nd LONDON REGT/RF (T shape); 3rd Bn London Regt (RF) - A: Red letters on khaki - 3rd LONDON (arc); 3rd Bn London Regt (RF) - B: Red letters on khaki - 3rd LONDON/RF (T shape); 3rd Reserve Bn London Regt - A: White letters on red - 3rd (RES) LONDON (arc). 3rd Reserve Bn London Regt - B: Red letters on khaki - 3rd (RES) LONDON (arc). This is largely from Waring's Identification Pamphlet No. 2, which is not complete so there may be other variations. Here are some examples on eBay at the moment. Cloth London Titles... You'll note that those for the 1st Bn don't coincide with Waring, reinforcing with 'more variations' thought. Best wishes, GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 3 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 March , 2008 Grovetown many thanks I think youve cracked it, I am now certain that they are men of 1st and 2nd London Regiment Thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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