notforgotten Posted 4 September , 2009 Share Posted 4 September , 2009 I have looked for the service record of the above Soldier on Ancestry.co.uk but have as yet been unable to find it. It appears he died of wounds 27 March 1918. Wondering if anyone has information about the Regiments operations during the time he died. Regards, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 4 September , 2009 Share Posted 4 September , 2009 I have looked for the service record of the above Soldier on Ancestry.co.uk but have as yet been unable to find it. It appears he died of wounds 27 March 1918. Wondering if anyone has information about the Regiments operations during the time he died. Regards, Bill. Bill, I think you'll find everything you need about 9/KRRC during the Kaiserschlacht (including my transcription of the relevant KRRC Chronicle War Record entries and a useful map) in this earlier Topic: Archibald Bolton KRRC 9TH BT, Medals entitlement and tracing them Rfn Hearn would have had very similar experiences to Archibold Bolton in that dreadful time, which saw the battalion reduced by April 5th to eighty men. Let us know if there's anything else you need. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 4 September , 2009 Share Posted 4 September , 2009 Bill 9 KRRC was part of 43 Brigade of 14 Division and were in this action around the time of his wounding/death: http://www.1914-1918.net/bat17.htm He is remembered on the Pozieres Memorial as he has no known grave. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 4 September , 2009 Share Posted 4 September , 2009 Bill9 KRRC was part of 43 Brigade of 14 Division and were in this action around the time of his wounding/death: http://www.1914-1918.net/bat17.htm He is remembered on the Pozieres Memorial as he has no known grave. Sotonmate Sotonmate, That link's pointing to the German retreat to the Hindenburg line in March 1917 not the Kaiserschlacht in March 1918! Rifleman Hearn died on 27 March 1918. SDGW has him as Died of Wounds. The fact his body was then lost is indicative of the chaos of the Kaiserschlacht I fear I think you meant to post this: The First Battles of the Somme 1918 Also 9/KRRC were actually in 42nd Brigade ... not 43rd Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notforgotten Posted 4 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 4 September , 2009 Sotonmate, That link's pointing to the German retreat to the Hindenburg line in March 1917 not the Kaiserschlacht in March 1918! Rifleman Hearn died on 27 March 1918. SDGW has him as Died of Wounds. The fact his body was then lost is indicative of the chaos of the Kaiserschlacht I fear I think you meant to post this: The First Battles of the Somme 1918 Also 9/KRRC were actually in 42nd Brigade ... not 43rd Cheers, Mark Thankyou for the replies, I am unable to find his military record papers on ancestry. Mark, forgive the ignorance, what is SDGW ? Regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 4 September , 2009 Share Posted 4 September , 2009 Mark Thank you,it happens now and then ! My notes say 42nd Bde too ! Apologies if I sent you off anywhere you didn't need to go,Bill ! Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notforgotten Posted 4 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 4 September , 2009 Mark Thank you,it happens now and then ! My notes say 42nd Bde too ! Apologies if I sent you off anywhere you didn't need to go,Bill ! Sotonmate Sotonmate no problem at all, thanyou all the same, appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 5 September , 2009 Share Posted 5 September , 2009 MarkThank you,it happens now and then ! My notes say 42nd Bde too ! Sotonmate Ain't that the truth - LOL! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 5 September , 2009 Share Posted 5 September , 2009 Thankyou for the replies, I am unable to find his military record papers on ancestry.Mark, forgive the ignorance, what is SDGW ? Regards, Bill Bill - sorry for the jargon! SDGW = Soldiers Died in the Great War. A version is available via Ancestry but which unfortunately has some of the data fields transposed, so everyone appears to have died in Aldershot or Catterick! Here's the data on the Ancestry version: Name: Rfn Jerry Hearn Residence: Hounslow, Middx. Death Date: 27 Mar 1918 Enlistment Location: Acton Green, Middx. Regiment: King's Royal Rifle Corps Battalion: 9th Battalion. Number: A/205079 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Aldershot [ignore this] Here are Jerry's CWGC (Commonweath War Graves Commission) entry details: Name: HEARN, JERRY Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Rifleman Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps Unit Text: 9th Bn. Date of Death: 27/03/1918 Service No: A/205079 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 61 to 64. Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL And here's Jerry's MIC on Ancestry Jerry Hearne (sic) MIC image (N.B. this link will require an Ancestry account) Notice his surname is spelt "Hearne" on the MIC and he has Service Number 'M.205079' which does not follow any recognised KRRC numbering schema. 'A/205079' (as per SDGW and CWGC) is much more plausible as this would indicate a late enlisting recruit posted from the Training Reserve battalions. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notforgotten Posted 5 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 5 September , 2009 Bill - sorry for the jargon! SDGW = Soldiers Died in the Great War. A version is available via Ancestry but which unfortunately has some of the data fields transposed, so everyone appears to have died in Aldershot or Catterick! Here's the data on the Ancestry version: Name: Rfn Jerry Hearn Residence: Hounslow, Middx. Death Date: 27 Mar 1918 Enlistment Location: Acton Green, Middx. Regiment: King's Royal Rifle Corps Battalion: 9th Battalion. Number: A/205079 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Aldershot [ignore this] Here are Jerry's CWGC (Commonweath War Graves Commission) entry details: Name: HEARN, JERRY Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Rifleman Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps Unit Text: 9th Bn. Date of Death: 27/03/1918 Service No: A/205079 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 61 to 64. Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL And here's Jerry's MIC on Ancestry Jerry Hearne (sic) MIC image (N.B. this link will require an Ancestry account) Notice his surname is spelt "Hearne" on the MIC and he has Service Number 'M.205079' which does not follow any recognised KRRC numbering schema. 'A/205079' (as per SDGW and CWGC) is much more plausible as this would indicate a late enlisting recruit posted from the Training Reserve battalions. Cheers, Mark Hi Mark thanks for that, I have found the listings that you have posted, I have subscription to Ancestry, but still cannot find his service papers like I can with other ancestors who served during the first world war. Thanks anyway, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notforgotten Posted 25 October , 2010 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2010 Hello, is anyone able to assist in locating jerry hearn's service record on ancestry? Also, where would the war diary be held in relation to the 9th Battalion ? Thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 25 October , 2010 Share Posted 25 October , 2010 Also, where would the war diary be held in relation to the 9th Battalion ? Thankyou. 9/KRRC War Diary is held at the National Archive. I believe a copy is also held at The Rifles Museum in Winchester. Are you looking for something specific? I've transcribed most of the key info in the links above. I've had another look for Hearne's Service Record and it still is not turning up through all the usual variants. IIRC, only about 1 in 3 of the records survived The Blitz. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 28 October , 2010 Share Posted 28 October , 2010 Bill, This period in time for the 9th KRRC was very bad. The battalion suffered very heavily, as did the whole Division, and by the 26th had become attached to the 9th Rifle Brigade due to their losses. The Division, on the 26th concentrated and marched to Ecuvillon and later to Elancourt where it was billeted. The battalion diary records at the end of the month an increase of 89 O.R.'s but records a decrease of 23 officers and 620 O.R's Mark, did I not send you the 9th's diary. 43rd Brigade Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 31 October , 2010 Share Posted 31 October , 2010 Mark, did I not send you the 9th's diary. 43rd Brigade Andy Ooops! Yes indeed you did, and as your precious hand-taken photos, not digital scans, but I still had them as the e-mail attachments without saving them out onto my data drives and I hadn't realised that! It all got caught up with my computer dying in the early summer! Now I'm re-equipped again, this has been a timely reminder of unfinished business - time to roll sleeves up and save and rename all those attachments!! Thanks again for the data! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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