Peter Bennett Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 I am helping a friend trace his Grandfather's birth certificate. SDGW states George Foster was born in Liverpool, enlisted Dewsbury. He was married at Dewsbury Register Office and his marriage certificate for June 1913 shows him to be a widower aged 35. His father, also George Foster (deceased) was a brickmaker by trade. My friend has applied to Liverpool Register Office but without the correct quarter and registration district they have been unable to locate his birth details. Can anyone please help or advise. Thank you Peter Name: FOSTER, GEORGE Initials: G Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry Unit Text: 6th Bn. Date of Death: 15/09/1916 Service No: 14916 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 11 C and 12 A. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 Peter I’m sometimes a little suspicious about the place of birth as recorded by SDGW. Do you have any other evidence to back up his birth as being in Liverpool? From his wedding certificate , we know his age at marriage (suggesting he was born in 1877 or 1878), his father was George (deceased), a bricklayer. And he was married in Dewsbury. Looking at the 1881 census, the nearest to his date of birth, there is a George Foster, a 27 year old Bricklayer, married to Ann (25) and living at Haven (Haver?) Lane in Peasholme, York. He has a son, George aged 3, but both are shown as being born in York. So we have the same age, same father’s name, same occupation, living in Yorkshire, but different place of birth. Even if we take this as being “your” man, there are over 40 births registered in Yorkshire during 1877/1878 for George Foster. Some of them could perhaps be excluded due to being quite a distance from York, there are also quite a few with a middle name – did “your” George have a middle name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 FreeBMD shows three George Fosters born in the Liverpool [/u]area[u] in 1877-1879: 1st- regd at West Derby, which covered a lot of the outlying districts, first quarter of 1877, vol. 8b, page 617. 2nd-regd at Prescot, first qr, 1879, vol 8b, p.769 3rd- regd at Ormskirk, also first qr 1879, vol 8b, p. 851. None for the actual Liverpool registration district itself. Worth a look? Daggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 Presume his service record does not exist? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 22 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2008 FreeBMD shows three George Fosters born in the Liverpool [/u]area[u] in 1877-1879: 1st- regd at West Derby, which covered a lot of the outlying districts, first quarter of 1877, vol. 8b, page 617. 2nd-regd at Prescot, first qr, 1879, vol 8b, p.769 3rd- regd at Ormskirk, also first qr 1879, vol 8b, p. 851. None for the actual Liverpool registration district itself. Worth a look? Daggers Thanks Daggers, the West Derby one does not have the correct father's details according to Liverpool Register Office. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 22 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2008 Peter I’m sometimes a little suspicious about the place of birth as recorded by SDGW. Do you have any other evidence to back up his birth as being in Liverpool? From his wedding certificate , we know his age at marriage (suggesting he was born in 1877 or 1878), his father was George (deceased), a bricklayer. And he was married in Dewsbury. Looking at the 1881 census, the nearest to his date of birth, there is a George Foster, a 27 year old Bricklayer, married to Ann (25) and living at Haven (Haver?) Lane in Peasholme, York. He has a son, George aged 3, but both are shown as being born in York. So we have the same age, same father’s name, same occupation, living in Yorkshire, but different place of birth. Even if we take this as being “your” man, there are over 40 births registered in Yorkshire during 1877/1878 for George Foster. Some of them could perhaps be excluded due to being quite a distance from York, there are also quite a few with a middle name – did “your” George have a middle name? Thanks Stephen, the marriage certificate does not record a middle name. The York theory is a very good one apart from the father's occupation being a BRICKMAKER as opposed to a Bricklayer but this could be yet another error. I will go back to my friend with these replies. Peter Presume his service record does not exist? Ian Ian, sorry to be a bit dim, what do you mean by his service record. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 Ian, sorry to be a bit dim, what do you mean by his service record. Peter Peter, If his army service record survives, then it will have his place of birth and next of kin info. It might help you. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 Looking at the Dewsbury connection, could this be him? Births Dec 1877 -------------------------------------------- FOSTER George Dewsbury 9b 639 Might be worth getting this certificate to check out the info on it. Cost a few pounds I know, but it seems a reasonable avenue to follow? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroline@linkagecomputing.co.uk Posted 22 May , 2008 Share Posted 22 May , 2008 There are papers on Ancestry for George Foster dated May 1910 in Territorial Force age given at that date 18 years six months occupation bricklayer Regiment West Yorkshire enlisted Leeds not Liverpool. Mobilization address: Rifleman G. Foster,6 Craven Terrace , Carlton House, Leeds-Sent by 8th West Yorkshire Regiment. Problem is it has orginal numbering his number being 1133 and does not show new number after re-numbering. Birth parish given as Woodhouse Yorks This could be a complete red herring but age occupation regiments being Yorkshire may fit your man. I cannot see any match to Liverpool in Yorkshire regiment or with the number you quote but then knowing the filing system it maybe present but hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 11 January , 2010 Author Share Posted 11 January , 2010 Just bumping this up again. I have tried to find his service record on Ancestry but to no avail. Praying for a miracle Thank you Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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