auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 I have noticed on his MIC that King George V was entitled to the 15 Star, BWM and Victory. Does anyone know what the inscription is? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 Good point! Would there have been enough room? Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 May , 2008 I also noticed that the Prince of Wales made his request for his 14 Star Trio through his equerry. I imagined being royalty they would just arrive. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 If he was an Officer (the Prince that is), he would have had to request them IIRC. I noticed the King didn't have a regiment (was he a mercenary? ) Below, both MICs Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 May , 2008 There is another MIC for Prince of Wales Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 I'm not surprised with the first one - the other is a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 Here's another as an extra - Earl Kitchener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 I thought you didn`t qualify by making visits? Mind you, it would take a brave clerk to turn KGV down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 13 May , 2008 Share Posted 13 May , 2008 But as King I though he would have "applied" for the 14 Star & Clasp, Merc Marine and any other's that he may have been in charge of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Marshall Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Hi, The King not having a regiment recorded on his MIC is not a problem as far as the medals are concerned because the regiment or corps is not detailed in the naming which is limited to rank, initials, surname only. The regiment is given on the stars. I presume the medals form part of the Royal Collection? Perhaps a letter to the curator at Windsor Castle might bring an answer as to what is impressed on the medals as regards naming. Cheers Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 So you didn't see the ebay seller "Phil the Greek" knocking them out recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Email sent to Windsor castle this morning. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 From Gordon:- "The 14/15 star was not awarded to those who passed through a theatre of war, or only visited one. For instance, those who passed through any of the theatres as passengers, or visited them in inspections, did not qualify." As KGV didn`t hold any executive rank, his visits can`t have had a military purpose so could be classed merely as "a visit". I appreciate that this nitpicking distinction makes little difference as to whether he got the medal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Phil I still think its a valid point, and a point was intending to make when we got the information. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Marshall Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Controversy rages over the rights and wrongs of the present Queen, who strictly speaking, did not qualify for the Defence Medal, but still was awarded it and wore it at least until she 'retried' from riding at the Queen's Birthday Parade. If I haven't got my wires crossed, she was awarded it on the insistence of her father KGVI but against the advice of Winston Churchill. Maybe the circumstances surrounding KGV's medals are similar? Might his falling from and then being crushed by his horse count as him being wounded in theatre and let him qualify via the back door? I hope you get a worthwhile response from Windsor Mick, pretty quick off the mark to find the right address etc! Cheers, Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Might his falling from and then being crushed by his horse count as him being wounded in theatre and let him qualify via the back door? Nigel Put it this way - if Lloyd George had fallen off a horse at some place well behind the lines, would there be a case for his getting a star? Here`s an interesting scenario. Before he was stripped of his British honours and Field Marshal`s rank, the Kaiser visited the front. He would equally qualify for a 14/15 trio! I reckon he would qualify until the Titles Deprivation Act 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 I hope you get a worthwhile response from Windsor Mick, pretty quick off the mark to find the right address etc! Nigel My old friend Mr Google found the address for me http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/museum/AM17885.html Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 This lot must have got some stick Albert Kaiser Middlesex Regiment G/9252 Albert Kaiser Middlesex Regiment G/30649 Albert Kaiser Army Service Corps M2/047885 Charles Kaiser Labour Corps 557687 Charles J Kaiser Middlesex Regiment G/36630 Edgar Kaiser Royal Field Artillery 159849 Ernest Kaiser Middlesex Regiment G/98131 Frederick H Kaiser East Yorkshire Regiment, Highland Light Infantry 3182, 202871 Frederick J Kaiser East Surrey Regiment L/13830 Gerald B Kaiser Middlesex Regiment G/80439 Harris Kaiser Labour Corps 558467 J Kaiser 1 CCL Regt 53 Joseph Kaiser Royal Field Artillery, Royal Field Artillery 2453, 771108 Joseph Kaiser Royal Fusiliers, Middlesex Regiment G30635, G30635 Joseph Fred Kaiser Royal Field Artillery, 315Bde 771108, 771108 Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterlad2 Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Does anyone fancy checking the mic for Prince Albert? Duke of York at the time, I believe. (Future Goerge VI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 Ive tried for a while now, can't find him....yet. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 silly me, he would be in Navy records Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterlad2 Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 D'oh!!! Stupid me. I knew he was navy before I even asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 May , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2008 So did I!! must be the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 The King was head of the armed forces, that is why he received them. He was there in an official capacity. David Lloyd George also received war medals. Amongst others, there was Robert McAlpine, of construction industry fame, who received the British War medal in his capacity as a civilian contractor building huts well behind the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 14 May , 2008 Share Posted 14 May , 2008 So would the Kaiser qualify as a British Field Marshal? I don`t think, in theory at any rate, that being there in an official capacity is quite enough. If you`re visiting, official capacity or not, you`re still visiting and not qualifying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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