Paul Reed Posted 15 April , 2008 Share Posted 15 April , 2008 Does anyone know of any commemorations in the UK or France connected with the 90th Anniversary of Mick Mannock's death on 26th July? Or around that date? Name: MANNOCK, EDWARD Initials: E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Major Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Unit Text: 85th Sqdn. Secondary Regiment: Royal Engineers Secondary Unit Text: and Age: 31 Date of Death: 26/07/1918 Awards: V C, D S O and 2 Bars, M C and Bar Additional information: Son of Mrs. J. Mannock, of 24, Lozells Rd., Six Ways, Birmingham. In addition to his Citation, the following information should also be noted: Major Mannock was involved in the downing of at least 23 further aircraft, but because others might well have assisted in their destruction these were not added to the total in his VC Citation. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: ARRAS FLYING SERVICES MEMORIAL Citation: An extract from the "London Gazette", dated 18th July, 1919, records the following:-"On the 17th June, 1918, he attacked a Halberstadt machine near Armentieres and destroyed it from a height of 8,000 feet. On the 7th July, 1918, near Doulieu, he attacked and destroyed one Fokker (red-bodied) machine, which went vertically into the ground from a height of 1,500 feet. Shortly afterwards he ascended 1,000 feet and attacked another Fokker biplane, firing 60 rounds into it, which produced an immediate spin, resulting, it is believed, in a crash. On the 14th July, 1918, near Merville, he attacked and crashed a Fokker from 7,000 feet, and brought a two-seater down damaged. On the 19th July, 1918, near Merville, he fired 80 rounds into an Albatross two-seater, which went to the ground in flames. On the 20th July, 1918, East of La Bassee, he attacked and crashed an enemy two-seater from a height of 10,000 feet. About an hour afterwards he attacked at 8,000 feet a Fokker biplane near Steenwercke and drove it down out of control, emitting smoke. On the 22nd July, 1918, near Armentieres, he destroyed an enemy triplane from a height of 10,000 feet. Major Mannock was awarded the undermertioned distinctions for his previous combats in the air in France and Flanders:-Military Cross, gazetted 17th Sept., 1917; Bar to Military Cross, gazetted 18th Oct., 1917; Distinguished Service Order, gazetted 16th Sept., 1918; Bar to Distinguished Service Order (1st), gazetted 16th Sept., 1918; Bar to Distinguished Service Order (2nd), gazetted 3rd Aug., 1918. This highly distinguished officer during the whole of his career in the Royal Air Force, was an outstanding example of fearless courage, remarkable skill, devotion to duty and self-sacrifice, which has never been surpassed. The total number of machines definitely accounted for by Major Mannock up to the date of his death in France (26th July, 1918) is 50 - the total specified in the " Gazette " of 3rd Aug., 1918, was incorrectly given as 48 instead of 41." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Roberts Posted 15 April , 2008 Share Posted 15 April , 2008 I don't know about this, but there has been a lot of publicity about the 90th anniversary of MvR - books, the film - but not much about the anniversarys of the deaths of our own aces this year. McCudden is 9th July, and many others - Little, Booker, McElroy, Dallas; I'm sure we can all think of more. Maybe people feel that we shouldn't highlight the famous names over and above the many unknown but just as deserving ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 17 April , 2008 Author Share Posted 17 April , 2008 Thanks, I take you point, but I wasn't proposing a debate on the merits of remembering the 'famous few', I was just asking if anything was taking place in respect of Mannock. Seemingly not, given the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 17 April , 2008 Share Posted 17 April , 2008 Myself and Freddy1918 intend to be at Wavans for Jimmy McCudden's anniversary. I did email Cross and Cockade and ask if anything was planned but had no reply. Regards, Jonathan S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 17 April , 2008 Author Share Posted 17 April , 2008 Thanks Jon - would be interested to know if anything takes place there, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Clark Posted 17 April , 2008 Share Posted 17 April , 2008 Did anyone realise he had a connection to Ashford? Yes indeed he lived here for a short time when his Territorial Force unit (2nd Home Counties Field Ambulance) moved from Canterbury to the Drill Hall Ashford. I keep meaning to complete my VC page on kentfallen it's incomplete at present. I have tried to list all VC winners with a Kent connection. I have an interest in Mannock, alongside Jimmy McCudden Kent's other famous RFC VC pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 17 April , 2008 Share Posted 17 April , 2008 Of course a fair part of Mick's childhood was spent in Kent - Margate and Canterbury from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex revell Posted 22 April , 2008 Share Posted 22 April , 2008 There used to be an anniversary service each year in Canterbury Cathedral, but I don't know if it is still held. I went once with Mick's niece, an hilarious occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 22 April , 2008 Author Share Posted 22 April , 2008 Thanks for that - am presuming you are Alex Revell, the author? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex revell Posted 23 April , 2008 Share Posted 23 April , 2008 Guilty as charged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alans Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 any pictures out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalk Posted 11 July , 2011 Share Posted 11 July , 2011 There used to be an anniversary service each year in Canterbury Cathedral, but I don't know if it is still held. I went once with Mick's niece, an hilarious occasion. Here's the memorial to Mannock in the nave in Canterbury Cathedral: Just peeking into the bottom of the picture is the top of an RAF wreath. This link will take you to a newspaper report of the anniversary service in 2009: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentish_gazette/news/2009/july/29/mick_mannock.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tucker Posted 11 July , 2011 Share Posted 11 July , 2011 I have been interested in his mother's Birmingham address on CWGC i.e in Birmingham. Some time ago I could not find her on the 1911 census for the Bham area. Anyone know anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promenade Posted 12 July , 2011 Share Posted 12 July , 2011 Alan, It appears that his mother Julia moved around a lot and was probably not in Birmingham in 1911. In 1916 she was living at 10 Bruce St, Belfast and later at 159 Divis St, Belfast. In 1918/19 she lived at two addresses 15 Witton Rd, Sixways, Aston, Birmingham and 96 Ettington Rd, Aston. It seems she later moved to 24, Lozells Rd., Six Ways, Birmingham which is the address on Mick Mannock's CWGC entry. His father Edward lived at 29 Siebert Rd, Westcombe Park, Blackheath, London in 1919. This information was taken from his 'officer's papers'. Promenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 12 July , 2011 Share Posted 12 July , 2011 Paul, Has the problem of the unknown grave "alleged" to be Mick Mannock been resolved? Regards. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tucker Posted 12 July , 2011 Share Posted 12 July , 2011 Merci Alan, It appears that his mother Julia moved around a lot and was probably not in Birmingham in 1911. In 1916 she was living at 10 Bruce St, Belfast and later at 159 Divis St, Belfast. In 1918/19 she lived at two addresses 15 Witton Rd, Sixways, Aston, Birmingham and 96 Ettington Rd, Aston. It seems she later moved to 24, Lozells Rd., Six Ways, Birmingham which is the address on Mick Mannock's CWGC entry. His father Edward lived at 29 Siebert Rd, Westcombe Park, Blackheath, London in 1919. This information was taken from his 'officer's papers'. Promenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spymaster Posted 7 September , 2018 Share Posted 7 September , 2018 Again, I am a bit late....ahem but 378 (Mannock) Sqn ATC held services to mark the 90th, 95th and 100th anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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