Guest Posted 11 July , 2019 Share Posted 11 July , 2019 (edited) In my early 60's and catching up on my WW 1 education (which was barely covered in my traditional US education). I prefer audiobooks (that entertain me while mowing grass 6 hours per week) to reading (which puts me to sleep). Just finished: A German Deserter's War Experience - It was OK but I'm not sure about its authenticity...which is natural when the author remains anonymous. Now It Can Be Told - Excellent story by a war corespondent embedded in the British Army that offers a different perspective as an "outsider". It is a classic and rightfully so. Over the Top - I posted this message (my 1st one) because I really, really enjoyed this one. A fascinating story that morphed from humor in the beginning to horror at the end. The reader is very good. I was sad when he was seriously wounded because (1) I liked him and (2) it meant that he was sent home, effectively ending the story. Selfishly, I wanted it to go on longer. Not a book but I also enjoyed Dan Carlin's 6-part podcast series on WW 1 - Blueprint For Armageddon.. At 25+ hours, it eats up alot of mowing time. Edited 11 July , 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Jacket Collector Posted 11 July , 2019 Share Posted 11 July , 2019 2 hours ago, Snakebit12 said: Over the Top - I posted this message (my 1st one) because I really, really enjoyed this one. A fascinating story that morphed from humor in the beginning to horror at the end. The reader is very good. I was sad when he was seriously wounded because (1) I liked him and (2) it meant that he was sent home, effectively ending the story. Selfishly, I wanted it to go on longer. If the ‘Over The Top’ book you mention is that by Arthur Guy Empey then he wrote a follow-up book called ‘First Call’. Over the Top was published in the UK as ‘From the Fire-Step’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 11 July , 2019 Share Posted 11 July , 2019 "Herbert Austin’s son Vernon is featured in another story. He had competed in an Austin 20 at the 1914 Alpine Trial during June of that year quite successfully. By August of 1914 he was training as an officer with the Royal Artillery at Bulford and late in January 1915 he was killed by a snipers bullet on the Western Front. Herbert brought Vernon’s body home where he was buried at Canterbury Cathedral." Is there any proof that Vernon Austin's body was brought back to the UK and buried here? The CWGC records confirm that he's buried in the cathedral churchyard, but there's no mention of where he died. I would have thought that the practice of bring bodies home had been stopped by then, so would be have been brought home seriously wounded and died in a hospital in the Canterbury area instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 11 July , 2019 Share Posted 11 July , 2019 With reference to A German Deserter's War Experience, in my opinion was almost certainly part of the early British propaganda campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 11 July , 2019 Admin Share Posted 11 July , 2019 3 hours ago, The Scorer said: "Herbert Austin’s son Vernon is featured in another story. He had competed in an Austin 20 at the 1914 Alpine Trial during June of that year quite successfully. By August of 1914 he was training as an officer with the Royal Artillery at Bulford and late in January 1915 he was killed by a snipers bullet on the Western Front. Herbert brought Vernon’s body home where he was buried at Canterbury Cathedral." Is there any proof that Vernon Austin's body was brought back to the UK and buried here? The CWGC records confirm that he's buried in the cathedral churchyard, but there's no mention of where he died. I would have thought that the practice of bring bodies home had been stopped by then, so would be have been brought home seriously wounded and died in a hospital in the Canterbury area instead? Lieutenant Vernon James Austin was killed in action at La Bassee on January 26th 1915. From France the body was brought to Folkestone where it was met by Messrs Hunt and Sons who conveyed it to Canterbury by motor hearse for internment at the wish of the father of the deceased in St Martin's Churchyard. The cortege arrived at Canterbury Cathedral at 3p.m. on Saturday 6th February and the coffin placed in Holy Innocents Chapel. It was met by the Rev Canon Mason and the Rev Dr McDowall, the headmaster of King's School and a gugurd of honour from the King's School OTC. A short service was held at which his father and a few personal friends were present. The funeral took place on the following Monday afternoon, and the deceased was accorded full military honours. Lieut. Austin had served in the King's College OTC. Described as an exceedingly popular and enterprising officer he was promoted to commission in the Special Army Reserve in January 1912 and became a second lieutenant in the RFA Special Reserve. He was serving in 22nd Battery 34th Brigade RFA (attached to the 2nd Division) when killed, aged 21. He was mobilised with the Brigade and went to France with the BEF on the outbreak of war. (Source contemporary newspaper reports). The controversy over bringing home the war dead was not resolved until March 1915, and the principle of equality of sacrifice was not established until the formation of the IWGC which promoted the principle at their inaugural meeting in November 1917. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 12 July , 2019 Share Posted 12 July , 2019 7 hours ago, The Scorer said: The CWGC records confirm that he's buried in the cathedral churchyard, but there's no mention of where he died. I would have thought that the practice of bring bodies home had been stopped by then, so would be have been brought home seriously wounded and died in a hospital in the Canterbury area instead? There is an interesting sentence in the book regarding the return of Vernon's body- 'It is widely believed that in this respect he was aided by Harvey Du Cros, who made arrangements for the body to be transported home in one of the packing cases used to carry spare vehicle parts, namely, rear axles". I imagine Herbert Austin had some friends with influence and indeed Austins were working on the armoured cars at that stage. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 13 July , 2019 Share Posted 13 July , 2019 On 11/07/2019 at 12:49, Dust Jacket Collector said: If the ‘Over The Top’ book you mention is that by Arthur Guy Empey then he wrote a follow-up book called ‘First Call’. Over the Top was published in the UK as ‘From the Fire-Step’. One in the same. I wasn't expecting that from a LibriVox recording. I'm sure that some of it is propaganda like the story about Lloyd from Company D. No possible witnesses survived to tell the story. I will have to find the follow-up. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 13 July , 2019 Share Posted 13 July , 2019 3 hours ago, Snakebit12 said: I will have to find the follow-up. Available online Tales from a Dugout by Arthur Guy Empey 1918 Archive.org. First Call: Guide Posts to Berlin by Arthur Guy Empey 1918. A guide for new recruits into the American Army, and their families. Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 For my recent birthday, my daughter found me a virtually pristine copy of 'Fifty Amazing Stories of the Great War', published in 1936. This in a red binding rather than the more customary black, why the colour differential, anyone know? Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Maria Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, MikeyH said: For my recent birthday, my daughter found me a virtually pristine copy of 'Fifty Amazing Stories of the Great War', published in 1936. This in a red binding rather than the more customary black, why the colour differential, anyone know? Mike. My copy is also in the red binding , gold titles with red decorative endpapers and red top head . Although it doesn't have the motif on the front board and spine like the black ones I think it looks more of a deluxe edition , I don't know if it was more expensive to buy at the time however . Edited 15 July , 2019 by Black Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 3 hours ago, Black Maria said: My copy is also in the red binding , gold titles with red decorative endpapers and red top head . Although it doesn't have the motif on the front board and spine like the black ones I think it looks more of a deluxe edition , I don't know if it was more expensive to buy at the time however . Yes, mine is exactly as described, it does have the look of an upmarket version. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 (edited) About to start Kif: an unvarnished history by Gordon Daviot (aka Josephine Tey, pseudonyms of Elizabeth Mackintosh). I read it once years ago, before I was really interested in the GW and can't recall, now, why I didn't keep the second-hand copy I had picked up for 10p or so. Edited 15 July , 2019 by seaJane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 18 July , 2019 Share Posted 18 July , 2019 To Kenf48 and Waddell: Thanks for clearing that up for me - and my apologies for the delay in replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 21 July , 2019 Share Posted 21 July , 2019 Back from the Nijmegen Marches and now for two weeks on duty in Peutie… means LOTS of time to read; I have brought with me: Vivian Newman's "nursing through shot and shell", Richard Van emden's "Sapper Martin" and Pat Beauchamp's "Fanny goes to war", which has until now positively surprised me. read on!!! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bennitt Posted 22 July , 2019 Share Posted 22 July , 2019 Currently on the West Coast of Scotland, I came across ‘The Drowned and the Saved’ by Les Wilson, an account of the sinking of the American troopships Tuscania and Otranto off the island of Islay in February and September 1918 respectively, the one by a German submarine and the other following a collision in a horrendous storm, with the loss of hundreds of lives. To my shame I had not heard of these two disasters but the book, whose author lives on Islay, gives graphic descriptions of tragedy, heroism and humanity which are well worth reading. Cheers Martin B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted 26 July , 2019 Share Posted 26 July , 2019 I have read T E Lawrence's 'Seven Pillars of Wisdom' - Vol. II, a 1939 edtion. Extremely well written and definitely worth the read! I'm just wondering where I might discover Vol. I, but preferably in the same edition? Cheers, Caleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 26 July , 2019 Share Posted 26 July , 2019 There are a couple of possibilities as to publisher, but Bookfinder offers these:- click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 26 July , 2019 Share Posted 26 July , 2019 I am reading Cornerstones: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 31 July , 2019 Share Posted 31 July , 2019 Looks interesting… I't be nice to know if it IS also… looking forward to some comments on it before trying to find it. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 2 August , 2019 Admin Share Posted 2 August , 2019 Not reading but for information Naval and Military Press have many Great War bargains in their summer sale https://www.naval-military-press.com/product-category/the-great-war/ As ever, no connection with the company no endorsement sought or implied, simply posted for the benefit of forum members who may be looking for a title Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthStaffsPOW Posted 3 August , 2019 Share Posted 3 August , 2019 On 02/08/2019 at 14:16, kenf48 said: Not reading but for information Naval and Military Press have many Great War bargains in their summer sale https://www.naval-military-press.com/product-category/the-great-war/ As ever, no connection with the company no endorsement sought or implied, simply posted for the benefit of forum members who may be looking for a title Ken Cheers for that Ken, just cost me an arm and a leg by directing me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 August , 2019 Share Posted 3 August , 2019 Maybe as much as a hand on my account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigNap15 Posted 4 August , 2019 Share Posted 4 August , 2019 On 09/02/2004 at 08:05, Matt Dixon said: The Kaisers Battle by Martin Middlebrook............. (and it's a damn site more interesting than "Fiscal framework for social inclusion and health within local government 2004-5" which is what I am supposed to reading!) I've got this book, and iv'e read it two or three times over the last 20 years. Now I have a lot more books to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 17 August , 2019 Share Posted 17 August , 2019 Just had a lot of train time and read "Nursing through shot and shell" by Vivian Newman. It's the diary of staff nurse Beatrice Hopkinson. Very good read!! And now I'm going through Alan Palmer's "The Salient". M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald D Posted 17 August , 2019 Share Posted 17 August , 2019 I am currently reading "The Invisible Cross" by Andrew Davidson. The book follows the letters written to his new wife from the beginning of the war through to 1918. He rose from being a company commander to 2ic 1st Cameronians, and eventually OC of the battalion. I am only on page 87, so early days. Very interesting so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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