marine pete Posted 13 March , 2008 Share Posted 13 March , 2008 MY VICAR TELLS ME THAT HIS FATHER WON THE M.M. AND WHEN I PURSUED IT FUTHER HIS MEDALS WERE IN A DRAWER OF HIS DESK. HE WAS NOT A CASUALTY. 10-663 Lcpl G. A. SMITH 10th BATT. EAST YORKSHIRE REG (HULL CERCIALS) THE M.M. IS 19-633 HE SAYS THAT HE WAS A CORPORAL AND WAS WITH THE R.F.C. WERE WILL I FIND THE CITATION AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION. REGARDS PETER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 13 March , 2008 Share Posted 13 March , 2008 Peter. First, a request. Switch your Caps Lock off. Thanks. It is almost impossible to find a citation for the MM, I am afraid. It's not impossible, but you would need to be very lucky and find one in his service record or published in a newspaper or similar. You should be able to find the date when his MM was announced. It will be in the London Gazette. There is an online version, which has a search engine although many people find it rather frustrating to use. If his name doesn't give you anything try his number. By the way the "Cercials" refers to the 10th Battalion originally being known as the Hull Commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine pete Posted 13 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 March , 2008 Peter. First, a request. Switch your Caps Lock off. Thanks. It is almost impossible to find a citation for the MM, I am afraid. It's not impossible, but you would need to be very lucky and find one in his service record or published in a newspaper or similar. You should be able to find the date when his MM was announced. It will be in the London Gazette. There is an online version, which has a search engine although many people find it rather frustrating to use. If his name doesn't give you anything try his number. By the way the "Cercials" refers to the 10th Battalion originally being known as the Hull Commercials. thanks Cris, have done that ,also have put a request on in the wrong place regards peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 13 March , 2008 Share Posted 13 March , 2008 This looks like his Campaign Medal Index Card on NA... Medal card of Smith, George A Corps Regiment No Rank East Yorkshire Regiment 10/663 Private Royal Air Force 319218 Private Date 1914-1920 Catalogue reference WO 372/18 Link to it is Here Can't find a suitable card for the MM though, not with either of those numbers. Nearest is 19/993 G A Smith, East Yorks. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 13 March , 2008 Share Posted 13 March , 2008 Hi, Here is a link to his Medal Card http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=5 Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 14 March , 2008 Share Posted 14 March , 2008 Hi, His MM ref is London Gazzete 13/03/1919. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 14 March , 2008 Share Posted 14 March , 2008 His MM ref is London Gazzete 13/03/1919. Now I am confused Who is it we're looking for?? This is the list of East Yorkshire men awarded the MM from that Gazette... EAST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT. 10130 Coy./S.M. Maughan, T., 7th Bn. (Gateshead). 50771 Sjt. Alcock, A. B., 1st Bn, (Mansfield). 21690 Sjt. Batty, W.., 10th Bn. (Selby). 28239 Sjt. Bushell, H. E., 10th Bn. (Hull). 10/1201 Sjt. Charlesworth, A., 10th Bn. (New Holland). 36349 Sjt. Hanson, W., 10th Bn. (Barnoldswick). 41455 Sjt. Tennant, C., 10th Bn. (York). 8313 Cpl. Jackson, W. S., 1st Bn. (Hull). 40779 Pte. Broadhead, T. H., 7th Bn. (Batley). 10168 Pte. (L./C.) Dipple, T. W., 1st Bn. (Bow). 29388 Pte. Ferguson, D., 7th Bn. (Leith). 10/633 Pte. Graystone, H., 10th Bn. (Hull). 42567 Pte. Houston, J. B., 1st Bn. (Newcastle on Tyne). 9551 Pte. Hurrell, H. W., 7th Bn. (Norwich). 12/650 Pte. Kitching, C. H., 11th Bn. (Beverley). 10/495 Pte. Marsden, E:, 10th Bn. (Hessle). 50879 Pte. Massey, C., 1st Bn. (Beverley). 220613 Pte. (A./Cpl.) Maxwell, G., 1st Bn. (Southport). 36331 Pte. Murphy, T., 10th Bn. (Rotherham). 25360 Pte. Nash, A. W., 10th Bn. (Birmingham). 201746 Pte. Newlove, J. A., 7th Bn. (Beverley). 14113 Pte. Spencely, R., 1st Bn. (Lanchester). 50621 Pte. Stockdale, E., 1st Bn. (Airmyn). 220213 Pte. (L./C.) Taylor, R. S., 7th Bn. (Bristol). 28328 Pte. Tillotson, W., 11th Bn. (Bradford). 51054 Pte. Wilkinson, J. W., 11th Bn. (Spennymoor). As you can see, no sign of our G. A. Smith anywhere, nearest match is 10/633 Pte. H. Graystone, are we perhaps looking for two different men here? Yours confused. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 15 March , 2008 Share Posted 15 March , 2008 Steve, My error, 'dyslexia rules KO' Peter In the 10th Battalion history he is recorded as L/Cpl 10/663 G A Smith the award won while serving with the 10th battalion. I also have him as Wounded reported a casualty May 1917. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 15 March , 2008 Share Posted 15 March , 2008 In the 10th Battalion history he is recorded as L/Cpl 10/663 G A Smith the award won while serving with the 10th battalion. Charles Does the history give a date? I still can't find a Gazette entry for 10/663 G. A. Smith Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 15 March , 2008 Share Posted 15 March , 2008 Steve, No date and no mention in the history. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine pete Posted 16 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2008 Steve, No date and no mention in the history. Regards Charles Charles He may have been in the R.A.F. by then his M.M was Gazzeted 13/3/1919 his service No 319218 Pte R.A.F. Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 17 March , 2008 Share Posted 17 March , 2008 Peter, I made a mix up with the date of his London Gazette entry, but he is mentioned in the 10th Bn EYR history as being awarded the MM while serving with them. Steve has searched the LG to no avail. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine pete Posted 19 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2008 Peter, I made a mix up with the date of his London Gazette entry, but he is mentioned in the 10th Bn EYR history as being awarded the MM while serving with them. Steve has searched the LG to no avail. Regards Charles Thanks for all your help and time Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 19 March , 2008 Share Posted 19 March , 2008 I might be able to locate the MM via a different route if it was gazetted before the end of 1917. I shall try to look tonight. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 19 March , 2008 Share Posted 19 March , 2008 Here he is: London Gazette 9-12-1916 Listed as "19/663 L./C. G. A. Smith, E. Yorks. R." http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.a...ilitary%20medal Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 19 March , 2008 Share Posted 19 March , 2008 Steve, I knew you would be along with an answer. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 19 March , 2008 Share Posted 19 March , 2008 Here he is: London Gazette 9-12-1916 Listed as "19/663 L./C. G. A. Smith, E. Yorks. R." Good job somebody knows what they're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine pete Posted 20 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 20 March , 2008 Good job somebody knows what they're doing Thanks SteveE Once again The Class to the rescue. Regards Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 20 March , 2008 Share Posted 20 March , 2008 Thanks SteveE Once again The Class to the rescue. In this instance modesty prevents me from accepting the accolades. Stebie the 'Gazette Master' found the entry. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine pete Posted 20 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 20 March , 2008 In this instance modesty prevents me from accepting the accolades. Stebie the 'Gazette Master' found the entry. Steve Kind regards to All of You peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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