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Genuine WW 1 E L R Cap Badge


Rycroft
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How would you know if this is genuine ??? Do you just take it on trust ???

Rycroft

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Hi Rycroft, it's a minefield, but if you're buying from a reputable dealer, then it should be pretty safe, actually holding the badge in your hand is always a good starting point,

cheers, Jon

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You wont!! So much faking of badges has taken its toll I'm afraid. Only through experience handling badges, ones own trust and judgement, provable provenance or buying from a reputable dealer ( not infallible though) will you have any sense of certainty.

Good luck.

TT

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  • 2 weeks later...

To be honest, most fake (standard) ELR cap-badges are pretty obvious. For some reason, these seem to be quite difficult to get just right to a forger. The white metal appears of the wrong tone and feel, they are too light, the slider (or lugs, depending on the age of the badge being faked) is fitted wrong, the lettering is too thick, the "egypt" doesn't show through the back crisp enough, the rose is badly fitted, etc., etc.. Some of the fake economy badges are a little better, but many just appear too "clean" for some reason.

The rarer ELR badges seem to have been faked a lot better than the common ones. The main difficulty is working out the badges made at the time of WW1 and those that are post war! ;)

Dave

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A few originals for your perusal...

(please bear in mind that only the first 5 would feasably have been seen on WW1 uniforms and which was worn depends on the battalion)

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...and one of the "better" fakes...

(the real give-away is the slider, but the lettering, quality of metal and the fit of the rose all let it down too)

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The 1st VB wore the same as the 2VB badge depicted above, but with just "East Lancashire" on the scroll. That's the one that I haven't yet managed to find an original of (yet it's apparently more common than the 2VB badge -and I've had 3 of them!!!). (There was also the pre-1903 versions without the South Africa scroll)

Just for illustration purposes, here's an image that I've "borrowed" from ebay of a ("not quite right") 1VB badge...

Dave

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Dave

Just to say thanks, really nice display and invaluable to a beginner.

Thanks Ryecroft

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Dave

Just to say thanks, really nice display and invaluable to a beginner.

Thanks Ryecroft

You will find this site a source of useful information and much knowledge:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/

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