Mackay / Mckay

[KAYJAY]

Hi all,

I am new to this site but have been researching for many years.

I have all the Medal Index Cards for all the Mackays / Mckays who served in WW1,

(Army and Air Force). I also know all the decorations awarded and all who were casualties and information about many who were wounded.

If anyone out there wants any information about any member of this clan I will be pleased to tell you all I know.

Regards

Kayjay.

[Steve Bramley]

Hi kayjay,

Welcome to the Forum and thanks for your offer.

Any info' on J.McKay 3486 1/5th Bn Lincolnshire Regt. Wounded at the Hohenzollern Redoubt 13/10/15 would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve.

[christine liava'a]

Hello Kayjay,

Here are a couple for you. Any extra info would be appreciated.

Rifleman John McKay no 41 1st Fiji Contingent, Fiji Defence Force, enlisted Levuka,Fiji. European (NZ) aged 22

Bank of New South Wales, Levuka born Woodstock, NZ

s/of W D MacKay,

Woodstock, Westland, NZ

3 years 1st Westland Rifles,

3 years NZ Territorials,

private-Sth Canterbury Regiment

enlisted 1 February 1915

R/10197 4th KRRC

wounded repatriated 2 August 1916

returned per Arabia

McKAY, Pte John, of the Fiji contingent, who has been wounded in Flanders, was born at Woodstock, New Zealand. He is 22 yrs of age and a bank clerk by calling. He served six years in the State & High School Cadets (junior lieutenant), three years in the 1st, Westland, Rifles, Hokitika (senior sergeant) and three years in the NZ Territorials, South Canterbury Regt. Mr W D McKay, Woodstock, Westland, is his father. [Auckland Weekly News 24.06.1915]

................................

Major Daniel MacKay C/165th Bde, RFA

Born Scotland

CSR Lautoka

Volunteered May 1915

Served in France

twice gassed , wounded

Military Cross

LG 11 December 1916

Distinguished Service Order

LG 1 January 1919

[Muerrisch]

Here is a one, from my book 'Duty Done'.

Second Lieutenant Fredrick [or Frederick] Mackay [or McKay]. 2RWF

This officer was buried as Fredrick Mackay by the authorities, and CWGC knew him as such. More relevantly, so did his wife. Officers died in the Great War has F McKay, and War Diary uses F Mackay. Dunn's 'The war the infantry knew' prefers McKay, as does his PRO file WO 339 45138. The balance of probability is that he was Fredrick Mackay. He has been included in 'Duty Done' as an example of an ex-Ranker commissioned into RWF from another regiment, in this case the West Yorkshires [TWTIK says East Yorkshires and is wrong in this]. His PRO file is a substantial and informative sociological document, and is quoted extensively below. One may deduce that he was born about March 1880 because when he first enlisted, an ex-labourer, into the West Yorkshire Militia 28 February 1895 he was said to be 14 years 11 months. He stood only 5 feet and ¾ inches tall, with brown hair and blue eyes. 2 ½ years later, still a labourer, he had grown to 5 feet 5 inches, chest expanded 35 inches, weight 116 pounds when he enlisted as Private 5045 Mackay, West Yorkshire Regiment. The enlistment on 31 August 1897 was said to be at age 18 years 1 month [which does not accord with his age inferred above], and it was initially for seven years with the Colours and 5 on the Reserve. His record as an Other Rank appears to have been transferred virtually intact on to his file as an officer. His promotions and appointments were as follows:

· Lance Corporal 3 February 1899

· Good Conduct pay 31 August 1899

· Private 30 October 1899

· Lance Corporal 26 August 1900

· Private 21 August 1902

· Forfeit Good Conduct pay 27 April 1903

· Service pay at 7d 1 April 1904

· Lance Corporal 8 April 1904

· Corporal 1 November 1906

· Lance Sergeant 20 February 1908

· Sergeant 2 November 1910

· Colour Sergeant 26 January 1914

· Company Quartermaster Sergeant 1 August 1914

· Company Sergeant Major 29 December 1914.

[note that the last two were not promotions, but appointments, in that CQMS and CSM were at that time appointments for Colour Sergeants].

His qualifications included Musketry at Hythe 30 March 1912, and stretcher drill, chiropody, and cookery [for an Army that relied on its feet for mobility, it was essential that a proportion of NCOs were trained in chiropody].

During this period he had served with the West Yorkshire Regiment in:

· Africa 20 October 1899 to 2 June 1904 [QSA with clasps Ladysmith, Tugela Heights, Laings Nek, Orange Free State, Transvaal. KSA 1901 and 1902].

· Malta 10 January 1912 to 6 June 1913

· Albania 7 June 1913 to 9 June 1914

· Malta 10 June 1914 to 25 September 1914

· France from 5 November 1914.

Low points of his career included, in addition to loss of Lance Corporal status and Good Conduct pay:

· 1902 drunk twice

· 25 April 1903 at Pietermaritzburg absent from work, drunk in barracks, resisting escort, obscene language to an NCO

· 4 May 1903 at Pietermaritzburg drunk, creating disturbance and ‘screening crime’

For this alcohol-fuelled period of his life, he was variously admonished, confined to barracks, and fined.

He married Agnes 10 October 1904 and she seems to have gripped the problem by one means or another. The ‘crimes’ stopped and the children started: five arrived between 28 October 1905 and 8 October 1912. On active service with 2WYorks he was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal, London Gazette 11 March 1916:

‘For conspicuous gallantry throughout the campaign as a sniper. He has invariably shown great bravery and ability in the performance of his duties and given a splendid example of devotion to duty’.

The award was gazetted long after he was commissioned into RWF as a Second Lieutenant 23 September 1915. He arrived with 2RWF 30 October 1915 and TWTIK describes him as a reckless impetuous fire-eating Scot and compared him unfavourably with Stanway [but in fairness it should be stated that Stanway was a peerless soldier, an expert at his profession, admired by juniors and seniors alike]. Just returned from leave, Fredrick was badly wounded [gunshot wound to the neck] on the German wire whilst on patrol, and brought in with difficulty by Sergeant Bale and Captain Radford. He joined the 1st Battalion 2 January 1917, was wounded [multiple gunshot wounds] on 27 February and died of wounds next day. His widow was informed that he had been buried with a durable wooden cross in Couin British Cemetery. His modern headstone there bears this farewell:

‘Cherished memories of our loved one bring many a silent tear. Sadly missed by his wife.’

The inventory of his effects comprised:

· silver wrist watch, damaged

· tobacco pouch

· metal cigarette case

· ID discs two

· Iron jelloids, tin of

· Ribbons three

· 1 Fr Franc

· pipe

· hankerchief [sic]

In addition to his DCM and South African War medals with impressive clasps, he had the campaign medals 1914 Star, British War Medal and the Victory Medal. His file shows that he had also been awarded the Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, the qualification for which was 18 years service with irreproachable character and conduct. As regards 18 years in the ranks, he just scraped in. As regards conduct, a charitable view was clearly taken of the period 1902 to 1903. The Army and the Nation had seen good value from the ‘fire-eating Scot’, and the Army had demonstrated that its firm but fair treatment of combative individuals could produce good fighting soldiers.

[KAYJAY]

Hi kayjay,

Welcome to the Forum and thanks for your offer.

Any info' on J.McKay 3486 1/5th Bn Lincolnshire Regt. Wounded at the Hohenzollern Redoubt 13/10/15 would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve.

Hi Steve,

Private John Mckay 3486 (later nenumbered 240877 as he was in a territorial battalion) arrived in France 17/08/1915 so entitled to a 1915 trio.

His wound was not reported in the paper as far as I am aware and he had no entitlement to a S.W.B. shown on his medal index card, I have read through the actual Scotsman daily newspaper for the whole of the first war taking note of all the Mackay / Mckays who were wounded. I have recorded the wound on my database.

A copy of my database has been passed to the Clan Mackay society and will be available to browse shortly at the Clan Mackay Museum, in Bettyhill, Sutherland.

Regards Ken (Kayjay).

[KAYJAY]

Hello Kayjay,

Here are a couple for you. Any extra info would be appreciated.

Rifleman John McKay no 41 1st Fiji Contingent, Fiji Defence Force, enlisted Levuka,Fiji. European (NZ) aged 22

Bank of New South Wales, Levuka born Woodstock, NZ

s/of W D MacKay,

Woodstock, Westland, NZ

3 years 1st Westland Rifles,

3 years NZ Territorials,

private-Sth Canterbury Regiment

enlisted 1 February 1915

R/10197 4th KRRC

wounded repatriated 2 August 1916

returned per Arabia

McKAY, Pte John, of the Fiji contingent, who has been wounded in Flanders, was born at Woodstock, New Zealand. He is 22 yrs of age and a bank clerk by calling. He served six years in the State & High School Cadets (junior lieutenant), three years in the 1st, Westland, Rifles, Hokitika (senior sergeant) and three years in the NZ Territorials, South Canterbury Regt. Mr W D McKay, Woodstock, Westland, is his father. [Auckland Weekly News 24.06.1915]

................................

Major Daniel MacKay C/165th Bde, RFA

Born Scotland

CSR Lautoka

Volunteered May 1915

Served in France

twice gassed , wounded

Military Cross

LG 11 December 1916

Distinguished Service Order

LG 1 January 1919

Hello Christine,

Rifleman R/10197 4th Battalion Kings Royal Rifle Corps John Mackay is given on his M.I.C. as having been discharged but no indication is given as to a Silver War Badge number.

His first theatre of war is given as France 02/04/1915.

No wounds reported in papers.

Major Daniel Mackay - First theatre of war - Egypt December 1915 so entitled to 1915 Trio. No record of any wounds. As well as the M.C. & D.S.O. He was also mentioned in despatches L.G. 04/01/1917.

His commission dates are as follows T2/LT. 12/05/15, T/LT. 12/12/15, A/Capt. 31/08/16, T/Capt. 18/09/17, A/Major 05/12/17, Relinquish commission and to be Major 20/06/19.

I hope this is of some interest to you,

Regards Ken (Kayjay).

[KAYJAY]

Here is a one, from my book 'Duty Done'.

Second Lieutenant Fredrick [or Frederick] Mackay [or McKay]. 2RWF

This officer was buried as Fredrick Mackay by the authorities, and CWGC knew him as such. More relevantly, so did his wife. Officers died in the Great War has F McKay, and War Diary uses F Mackay. Dunn's 'The war the infantry knew' prefers McKay, as does his PRO file WO 339 45138. The balance of probability is that he was Fredrick Mackay. He has been included in 'Duty Done' as an example of an ex-Ranker commissioned into RWF from another regiment, in this case the West Yorkshires [TWTIK says East Yorkshires and is wrong in this]. His PRO file is a substantial and informative sociological document, and is quoted extensively below. One may deduce that he was born about March 1880 because when he first enlisted, an ex-labourer, into the West Yorkshire Militia 28 February 1895 he was said to be 14 years 11 months. He stood only 5 feet and ¾ inches tall, with brown hair and blue eyes. 2 ½ years later, still a labourer, he had grown to 5 feet 5 inches, chest expanded 35 inches, weight 116 pounds when he enlisted as Private 5045 Mackay, West Yorkshire Regiment. The enlistment on 31 August 1897 was said to be at age 18 years 1 month [which does not accord with his age inferred above], and it was initially for seven years with the Colours and 5 on the Reserve. His record as an Other Rank appears to have been transferred virtually intact on to his file as an officer. His promotions and appointments were as follows:

· Lance Corporal 3 February 1899

· Good Conduct pay 31 August 1899

· Private 30 October 1899

· Lance Corporal 26 August 1900

· Private 21 August 1902

· Forfeit Good Conduct pay 27 April 1903

· Service pay at 7d 1 April 1904

· Lance Corporal 8 April 1904

· Corporal 1 November 1906

· Lance Sergeant 20 February 1908

· Sergeant 2 November 1910

· Colour Sergeant 26 January 1914

· Company Quartermaster Sergeant 1 August 1914

· Company Sergeant Major 29 December 1914.

[note that the last two were not promotions, but appointments, in that CQMS and CSM were at that time appointments for Colour Sergeants].

His qualifications included Musketry at Hythe 30 March 1912, and stretcher drill, chiropody, and cookery [for an Army that relied on its feet for mobility, it was essential that a proportion of NCOs were trained in chiropody].

During this period he had served with the West Yorkshire Regiment in:

· Africa 20 October 1899 to 2 June 1904 [QSA with clasps Ladysmith, Tugela Heights, Laings Nek, Orange Free State, Transvaal. KSA 1901 and 1902].

· Malta 10 January 1912 to 6 June 1913

· Albania 7 June 1913 to 9 June 1914

· Malta 10 June 1914 to 25 September 1914

· France from 5 November 1914.

Low points of his career included, in addition to loss of Lance Corporal status and Good Conduct pay:

· 1902 drunk twice

· 25 April 1903 at Pietermaritzburg absent from work, drunk in barracks, resisting escort, obscene language to an NCO

· 4 May 1903 at Pietermaritzburg drunk, creating disturbance and ‘screening crime’

For this alcohol-fuelled period of his life, he was variously admonished, confined to barracks, and fined.

He married Agnes 10 October 1904 and she seems to have gripped the problem by one means or another. The ‘crimes’ stopped and the children started: five arrived between 28 October 1905 and 8 October 1912. On active service with 2WYorks he was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal, London Gazette 11 March 1916:

‘For conspicuous gallantry throughout the campaign as a sniper. He has invariably shown great bravery and ability in the performance of his duties and given a splendid example of devotion to duty’.

The award was gazetted long after he was commissioned into RWF as a Second Lieutenant 23 September 1915. He arrived with 2RWF 30 October 1915 and TWTIK describes him as a reckless impetuous fire-eating Scot and compared him unfavourably with Stanway [but in fairness it should be stated that Stanway was a peerless soldier, an expert at his profession, admired by juniors and seniors alike]. Just returned from leave, Fredrick was badly wounded [gunshot wound to the neck] on the German wire whilst on patrol, and brought in with difficulty by Sergeant Bale and Captain Radford. He joined the 1st Battalion 2 January 1917, was wounded [multiple gunshot wounds] on 27 February and died of wounds next day. His widow was informed that he had been buried with a durable wooden cross in Couin British Cemetery. His modern headstone there bears this farewell:

‘Cherished memories of our loved one bring many a silent tear. Sadly missed by his wife.’

The inventory of his effects comprised:

· silver wrist watch, damaged

· tobacco pouch

· metal cigarette case

· ID discs two

· Iron jelloids, tin of

· Ribbons three

· 1 Fr Franc

· pipe

· hankerchief [sic]

In addition to his DCM and South African War medals with impressive clasps, he had the campaign medals 1914 Star, British War Medal and the Victory Medal. His file shows that he had also been awarded the Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, the qualification for which was 18 years service with irreproachable character and conduct. As regards 18 years in the ranks, he just scraped in. As regards conduct, a charitable view was clearly taken of the period 1902 to 1903. The Army and the Nation had seen good value from the ‘fire-eating Scot’, and the Army had demonstrated that its firm but fair treatment of combative individuals could produce good fighting soldiers.

Hello langleybaston 1418,

Regarding Second Lieutenant Frederick Mackay, a couple of pieces of information for you.

His first theatre of war is given as France 05/11/1914.

He was reported in the newspaper as being wounded 17/02/1916 (this is usually several weeks later than the actual wound) before he was reported as being Died of wounds on 28/02/1917.

His reported commission in the London Gazette 28/10/1915 as Second Lieutenant (not temporary) was (F.S.I.T.F.) for service in the field i.e. for gallantry. I am only aware of 3 Mackays who had that particular distinction.

His wife Agnes is given as living in Liverpool.

I have Dunn's book and have read what it has to say about him.

Regards Kayjay.

[christine liava'a]

Thank you very much Kayjay.

If you are interested I could send you all the McKay/Mackays in the NZEF.

Let me know

Christine

[Steve Bramley]

Thanks very much Ken,

John McKay was among a group of 1/5th Lincolns recorded as wounded in the Grimsby News 26/10/1915. I will look up the article next time I am at the library and see if there are any further mentions. I suspect Mr McKay may have been an exiled Scot living in the area, or even a sassanach who had inherited the name

If I find anything else I will forward it to you.

All the best,

Steve.

[KAYJAY]

Thank you very much Kayjay.

If you are interested I could send you all the McKay/Mackays in the NZEF.

Let me know

Christine

Hi Christine,

Please call me Ken, I have the book by Lt.Col. John Studholme "Some records of the New Zealand Expeditionary Force" which gives the record of personal services during the war of the Officers, Nurses and First Class Warrant Officers.

As regards the other ranks I only know of them if they were killed, wounded or decorated.

I am sure that there are many others I have not come across yet as there were/are at least two very strong communities in New Zealand particularly at Waipu.

I would be very gratefull if you would let me know whatever information you have and I will add it to my database and it will be on the next update I send to the clan society and museum.

Regards Ken.

[David_Bluestein]

Ken,

Much thanks for the info you provided off forum...it is more then I ever expected and gratefully received.

Regards

David

[Charles Fair]

Ken

Thanks for your kind offer. Do you have anything on the following two from my database of 19th Londons:

Capt W.H.F. MACKAY

Commissioned London Regt (19th bn), 25/11/15

Served with 2/19th London Regt and awarded MC (Source: 'The Second Nineteenth' by FW Eames, p/183)

I havent yet found him on the medal rolls, he may not have claimed his medals

Pte William Charles MACKAY

5129 19th London Regt (from his number I believe he enlisted about the second week of Jan 1916)

served w 19th Londons on W Front 03/08/16 to 13/08/16 (which suggests he only got as far as 47 Div Base Depot with the 19th)

transferred to the 7th London Regt with the numbers 8028 and 354149

served w 7th Londons on W Front 14/08/16 to 9/10/16 and awarded SWB (which suggests he may have been wounded during the attack on the Flers Line in early Oct 1916)

(Source: 7th London Regt BW&VM Roll, p. 348)

many thanks

Charles

[KAYJAY]

Ken

Thanks for your kind offer. Do you have anything on the following two from my database of 19th Londons:

Capt W.H.F. MACKAY

Commissioned London Regt (19th bn), 25/11/15

Served with 2/19th London Regt and awarded MC (Source: 'The Second Nineteenth' by FW Eames, p/183)

I havent yet found him on the medal rolls, he may not have claimed his medals

Pte William Charles MACKAY

5129 19th London Regt (from his number I believe he enlisted about the second week of Jan 1916)

served w 19th Londons on W Front 03/08/16 to 13/08/16 (which suggests he only got as far as 47 Div Base Depot with the 19th)

transferred to the 7th London Regt with the numbers 8028 and 354149

served w 7th Londons on W Front 14/08/16 to 9/10/16 and awarded SWB (which suggests he may have been wounded during the attack on the Flers Line in early Oct 1916)

(Source: 7th London Regt BW&VM Roll, p. 348)

many thanks

Charles

Hello Charles,

Captain William Hugh Ferrier Mackay 19th London Regiment.

Awarded Military Cross - London Gazette 16/09/18.

Commissioned as Second Lieutenant 25/11/15, Promoted to Lieutenant 01/07/17,

Acting Captain (While commanding a company) 07/03/18.

I have not transcribed his Medal index card from microfische yet.

(I have just started on the W's.).

I will look it up and get back to you on what it says.

Private William Charles Mackay 8028 and 354149 (his card does not mention anything about the 19th battalion).

His card also does not mention entitlement to S.W.B.

His card says only entitled to B.W.M. & V.M. so he nust have went to france after the end of 1915.

I hope the above is of some use.

P.S. regarding the 19th Battalion do you know the serial number of Private Arnold Langley Mackay who was promoted to 2/LT. Royal Scots Fusiliers on 16/05/1915 ?.

Regards Ken.

[Charles Fair]

Ken,

Captain William Hugh Ferrier Mackay 19th London Regiment.

Awarded Military Cross - London Gazette 16/09/18.

Commissioned as Second Lieutenant 25/11/15, Promoted to Lieutenant 01/07/17,

Acting Captain (While commanding a company) 07/03/18.

Thanks for providing his full name and the date his MC was gazetted.

He also appears on pp 136-7 of 'The Second Nineteenth' which refers to him being in command of 'A' Company at the crossing of the Jordan on 21/22 March 1918. It appears that he was wounded on the morning of 22 March.

I will try and find his service papers next time I am in the PRO.

Private William Charles Mackay 8028 and 354149 (his card does not mention anything about the 19th battalion).

His card also does not mention entitlement to S.W.B.

His card says only entitled to B.W.M. & V.M. so he nust have went to france after the end of 1915.

Interesting. Service with 19th is shown on the BW&VM Roll itself, but presumably not on the MIC as he only appears to have reached the IBD as a 19th man before tf to the 7th. 'SWB' is written in pencil beside the entry.

P.S. regarding the 19th Battalion do you know the serial number of Private Arnold Langley Mackay who was promoted to 2/LT. Royal Scots Fusiliers on 16/05/1915 ?.

This man is new to me. He doesnt appear on the 19th Roll under the 'B' roll of men commissioned from the ranks of the 19th. He didn't claim his medals under the 19th. How did you come across him?

I will try and find his service record too.

Very many thanks for this

Charles

[KAYJAY]

P.S. regarding the 19th Battalion do you know the serial number of Private Arnold Langley Mackay who was promoted to 2/LT. Royal Scots Fusiliers on 16/05/1915 ?.

This man is new to me. He doesnt appear on the 19th Roll under the 'B' roll of men commissioned from the ranks of the 19th. He didn't claim his medals under the 19th. How did you come across him?

Charles, I am looking at his M.I.C. as I write, His medals were claimed under RSF/OFF/133 Page 148 Medal Roll for B.W.M. & V.M.

His card says he was a private wuth 19th Royal Fusiliers, that he was commissioned R.S.F. 16/05/15 but that he did not go to france until 24/07/16 so he did not go to France with the 19th but only with the R.S.F. presumably this is why he claimed his medals with the RS.F.

Regards Ken

[Charles Fair]

His card says he was a private wuth 19th Royal Fusiliers

Ah, no wonder I hadnt come across him! We have been talking at cross purposes about this man. The 19th Royal Fusiliers (2nd Public Schools bn) are a different battalion to the one that the two MacKays I have mentioned were in.

See the main site (click here) for more on the Royal Fusiliers. This can be confusing as the RF are subtitled 'City of London Regiment' but in practice this title isn't generally used everyday - just 'The Royal Fusiliers'.

I'm looking at the 19th (County of London) Battalion (St Pancras) This was part of The London Regiment, which was a Territorial Force only regiment. See the main site (click here) for more on the London Regt.

The situation is made even more confusing by the fact that the RF didn't have any TF bns of its own, but the first four bns of The London Regt were affiliated to the RF.

(To be even more confusing still the 19th (County of London) Battalion (St Pancras) was affiliated to the Middlesex Regt, which had a 19th battalion of its own. )

Many thanks for answering my query in any case.

Charles

[stevehowarth]

Hi

Have you anything on Captain James Bruce Mackay, 13th West Yorks Reg.

He was brought up in Skipton, Yorkshire - an Old Boy of Ermysted's Grammar School.

Look forward to your post

Steve H.

[KAYJAY]

Have you anything on Captain James Bruce Mackay, 13th West Yorks Reg.

Hello Steve,

Captain James Bruce Mackay 13th West Yorks Regiment.

Temporary Second Lieutenant 21/09/15.

Transferred to a Service Battalion (21st Battalion) 25/10/16.

Temporary Captain 31/10/16.

Died of Wounds 03/05/17. Age 32.

Buried St. Nicolas British Cemetery, Arras, France. Grave 1.B.18.

Son of Walter & Emily Bruce Mackay of Skipton, Yorkshire.

Husband of Maude Wilkinson Mackay of Snaygill, Skipton, Yorkshire.

Went to France 1916.

Hope the above is of some help.

Regards Ken.

[mordac]

Hi Ken:

Here's the list of McKay/MacKay's from the 102nd Battalion, CEF. Their history is 'From B.C. To Baisieux: Being the Narrative History of the 102nd Canadian Infantry Battalion' published in 1919. Additional information is from the National Archives of Canada and the CWGC.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 252150

Name - Mackay, Alexander Russel (note - lower case 'k' used in last name)

Rank - Private

Unit history - Wounded April 9, 1917 (Vimy) sent to England

Address - Vidora, Saskatchewan

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - August 5, 1898

Date of enlistment - January 22, 1916

Original unit - 128th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 225461

Name - MacKay, Charles William

Rank - Private

Unit history - none

Address - 1420 Washburn Street, Scranton, Pa., U.S.A.

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - February 24, 1898

Date of enlistment - May 10, 1917

Original unit - Depot Regiment Canadian Mounted Rifles

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 704135

Name - Mackay, Daniel Reid (note - lower case 'k' used in last name)

Rank - Corporal

Unit history - Evacuated sick January 19, 1917 to England

Address - Pittentrail, Broomfield, Rogat, Sutherland, Scotland

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - December 9, 1890

Date of enlistment - April 11, 1916

Original unit - 102nd Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 249330

Name - MacKay, Jerry

Rank - Private

Unit history - KIA September 4, 1918 (2nd Arras)

Address - Mrs. E. MacKay, Sparkhall Avenue, Toronto, Ontario

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - August 17, 1882

Date of enlistment - April 10, 1916

Original unit - 208th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from CWGC:

Remembered at the Vimy Memorial

Casualty details here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 210648

Name - MacKay, Vivian Ernest

Rank - Lance Corporal

Unit history - none

Address - Winona, Ontario

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - March 31, 1896

Date of enlistment - November 12, 1915

Original unit - 98th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 703108

Name - McKay, Donald

Rank - Sergeant

Unit history - Wounded November 22, 1916 (Somme) sent to England; Decoration, MM (Somme), Divisional Routine Order #375

Address - Police Station, Vancouver, B.C.

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - April 12, 1880

Date of enlistment - December 14, 1915

Original unit - 102nd Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 703620

Name - McKay, Donald

Rank - Lance Sergeant

Unit history - KIA April 9, 1917 (Vimy)

Address - J. Mowat, Keiss, Caithness, Scotland

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - May 26, 1884

Date of enlistment - July 12, 1916

Original unit - 102nd Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from CWGC:

Buried at the Givenchy Road Canadian Cemetery, Neuville-St. Vasst

Casualty details here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 3317318

Name - McKay, Hugh Kenneth

Rank - Private

Unit history - none

Address - Hawkestone, Ontario

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - September 3, 1892

Date of enlistment - January 24, 1918

Original unit - No. 2 M.D., 2nd Depot Battalion, 2nd C.O.R. Regiment

Attestation papers here.

Information from 102nd history:

Regimental number - 703067

Name - McKay. William John

Rank - Private

Unit history - Evacuated injured to England January 20,1917

Address - 595 Fleet Street, Winnipeg, Manitoba

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - November 9, 1882

Date of enlistment - December 9, 1915

Original unit - 102nd Battalion

Attestation papers here.

I'll post the 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles next.

Garth

[KAYJAY]

Garth,

Thanks for the information on the 102nd.

Much appreciated Ken.

[James Brown]

Ken

Any information on 79942 Sapper James McKay D.C.M. 173rd Tunneling Co. Royal Engineers.

Thanks

Regards

James Brown

[KAYJAY]

Any information on 79942 Sapper James McKay D.C.M. 173rd Tunneling Co. Royal Engineers.

Hello James,

Sapper 79942 James Mckay.

Formerly Private 7751 Gordon Highlanders - To France 25/03/1915.

Distinguished Conduct Medal 09/19/15. (L.G. Date).

Transferred to Royal Engineers 173rd Tunnelling Company.

Wounded 08/09/1917 (Newspaper Date) probably 6 to 8 weeks previously.

Was Discharged from service before the end of the war.

His M.I.C. does not give a S.W.B. entitlement although it does say he was discharged.

When he was wounded the newspaper said that he came from Whitletts in Ayrshire.

I hope the above is of some use to you.

Regards Ken.

[mordac]

Hi Ken:

Here's the list of McKay/MacKay's from the 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles, CEF. Their history is 'The 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles 1914-1919' written by Captain S. G. Bennett, MC and published in 1926. Additional information is from the National Archives of Canada and the CWGC.

Information from 4th CMR history:

Regimental number - none

Name - MacKay, Donald Roy

Rank - Captain

Original overseas unit - 4th CMR

Joined the 4th CMR in the field - October 24, 1915

Regimental record - Killed Ploegstraat December 5, 1915

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - June 30, 1883

Date of enlistment - December 3, 1914

Original unit - not listed

Attestation papers here.

Information from CWGC:

Buried at Berks Cemetery Extension

Casualty details here.

Information from 4th CMR history:

Regimental number - 226134

Name - Mackay, William Kenneth (note - lower case 'k' used in last name)

Rank - Private

Original overseas unit - Depot Regiment C.M.R.

Joined the 4th CMR in the field - November 12, 1917

Regimental record - Wounded, March 17, 1918; Struck off strength April 3, 1919

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - May 28, 1890

Date of enlistment - October 21, 1915

Original unit - Depot Regiment, Canadian Mounted Rifles

Attestation papers here.

Information from 4th CMR history:

Regimental number - 838655

Name - McKay, Donald

Rank - Private

Original overseas unit - 147th Battalion

Joined the 4th CMR in the field - June 16, 1917

Regimental record - Wounded, October 26, 1917; Struck off strength May 4, 1918

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - September 25, 1894

Date of enlistment - January 23, 1916

Original unit - 147th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 4th CMR history:

Regimental number - 838551

Name - McKay, Frank

Rank - Private

Original overseas unit - 147th Battalion

Joined the 4th CMR in the field - February 8, 1917

Regimental record - Wounded, August 10, 1918; Struck off strength April 5, 1919

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - February 18, 1891

Date of enlistment - january 6, 1916

Original unit - 147th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

Information from 4th CMR history:

Regimental number - 1003036

Name - McKay, Thomas Hector

Rank - Private

Original overseas unit - 227th Battalion

Joined the 4th CMR in the field - September 27, 1917

Regimental record - Struck off strength July 6, 1919

Information from NAC:

Date of birth - January 28, 1894

Date of enlistment - April 7, 1916

Original unit - 227th Battalion

Attestation papers here.

I'll work on the 16th Battalion list over the next couple of days.

Garth

[James Brown]

Ken

Really thankfull for you're time and effort on James McKay.

Good work.

Regards

James

[duckman]

Ken,

Are you also researching M'Cay / M'Kay as a variation on the name? There wree a few of them about as well.

Interesting project....

Duckman