The Prussian Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 The question is, how many remains until today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 Tucked away in my copy of Vol 1 was a note listing the numbers sold of some of the volumes Band 1 - 29677 Band 2 - 29295 Band 3 - 14370 Band 4 - 14033 Band 13 - 500 (1500 printed during the war, but nearly all burned during the war) Band 14 - 500 ( Last sales of Band 13/14 in 1975) Feldeisenbahnwesen - 6355 Schlachtenreihe (Schlachten des Weltkrieges) 40 - 50000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 (edited) That´s why you can get vol. 1 for about 30€... We also see, the later the war, the less pages were printed... From vol. 1 to vol. 14 we have: 1914: 40% 1915: 21% 1916: 15% 1917: 13% 1918: 11% Edited 31 January , 2020 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 I think what one has to bear in mind is that when the two volumes were released is that people had enough to do rebuilding their lives and country after ww2. The volumes would have only appealed to perhaps ex officers etc who had served in WW1 who had money to spare. What did they cost back then - about DM100 each? The people who bought them back then are in all probability dead. Interest in WW1 Germany in the 60s, 70s & 80s probably was even less than it is now, which isn‘t apart from a small group people, very much above zero. I suspect a lot have ended up in the bin after the owner died. What will happen to your copies Andy when you are called to the final Morgenappell? I wonder how they would sell today if they were reprinted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 A good questions... But heroes live long, but legends never die... I´m 52 so I´ve got enough time. But I think, in that case, I will give my collection the "Gesellschaft für Heereskunde" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartH Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 Very interesting print numbers and I will look at the book by Markus Pohlmann if he sheds light on the cost of the 1956 copies. Some thoughts about the interest in the 1960's and 1970's in the German campaigns of 1917 and 1918, my grandfather who had served in the 27 Jaegers, retired from running the Finnish gun copy Sako in the early 1970's. He was asked to do a fact finding mission into British armaments which led to the purchase of Hawks, Blowpipes etc. His fact finding involved several weeks of demos and visits, some with my mother (professional translator) many to British bases and training grounds in Germany. He was a retired colonel and was asked to bring and wear all his medals, including Nazi era ones he got. When in Germany he was feted in the mess's by British and German Units because in the midst of the cold war here was a man who was part of an armed force that had in 1917/18 forced Russia (German) to sue for peace and in 1944 (Finnis) fought the Russians to a standstill, and ended up giving several lectures to men and officers who were keen to learn all about fighting Russians. At one do going through his medals they then realised he had also advised and was with the Polish Forces in the early 20's when they won, and there was even more interest. So there was interest in the Russian campaign of 1917 but it was more from professional Nato soldiers and that is Volume 13 of Der Weltkrieg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 Hi Mark! Very interesting story about your grandpa! Thanks for sharing! I've got Pöhlmanns book. He writes about the history of German military history writings, but there are no prices of the 56' edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 Thanks Mart, very interesting. Its as well your Grandfather was feted by the men of the German units pre „von der Leyen“ and „AKK“ otherwise there would be a queue outside the employment office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 14 minutes ago, charlie2 said: Thanks Mart, very interesting. Its as well your Grandfather was feted by the men of the German units pre „von der Leyen“ and „AKK“ otherwise there would be a queue outside the employment office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartH Posted 31 January , 2020 Share Posted 31 January , 2020 11 hours ago, charlie2 said: Thanks Mart, very interesting. Its as well your Grandfather was feted by the men of the German units pre „von der Leyen“ and „AKK“ otherwise there would be a queue outside the employment office. Yes, especially since he had an award of Deutscher Adlerorden mit Stern (1936) and wore it. I think AKK and von der Leyen might have even have dumped them in the Baltic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overseer Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 Gentlemen (and Ladies, if present), I'm incredibly fortunate to have acquired (as a private collector) all the volumes (in half leather), the last being purchased off of Ebay in 1998. After seeing that the last Railroad volume was published in 2010, I have that now coming from a bookstore in England. I will attempt to find out if my Vols 13 & 14 (and 14 Mapcase in half leather) are '44 originals or from the '56 re-run. Please be on the lookout for my next post (with pics) concerning these volumes. OBTW, I started collecting these when stationed in Germany w/the US Army from "88-'94, and have all of the Wurttemburg Regimental Histories and have approx. 80 of the 92 or so Bavarian Regimental histories in my collection as well. RLTW! Todd Ringenbach LTC, USA (Ret) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 (edited) Hi Todd! We will wait for the photos! Note: The vol. 13 maps were coloured in the 42 edition and b/w in the 56 edition! Edited 28 April , 2021 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartH Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 There are no Vol 14 1944 editions, only proof copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overseer Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 Gruss Dich, Andy, Danke dir für die Information über meine Reihe! Unfortunately I have to report that my Vol 13, 14 and 14 Maps are all from the '56 reprint. But, I still consider myself incredibly blessed to have the complete set in half-leather (see enclosed photos). I look forward to getting to know everyone here, and I certainly appreciate your acceptance of a neophyte like myself (coming to the Party a bit late, but better late than never). Rangers Lead The Way! Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartH Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 (edited) Lovely, and please they are the first public editions! Edited 27 April , 2021 by MartH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 1 hour ago, Overseer said: Unfortunately I have to report that my Vol 13, 14 and 14 Maps are all from the '56 reprint. The word "Bundesarchiv" is the hint that makes it clear without looking into the book. The 1944 editon would have been from the Reichsarchiv. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Hi Todd! It´s more important to have the entire collection! It´s not bad, if you´ve got "only" the postwar vol.13. The only thing, that´s not so fine is, that the postwar vol 13 has hot b/w maps. Hello Grey C. That´s not right. Vol. 1-9: Reichsarchiv Vol. 10-11: Reichskriegsministerium Vol. 12-13: Oberkommando der Wehrmacht Vol. 14: Bundesarchiv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Hello Todd Thanks for showing them, Is there anything to indicate who the first owner was? 2 hours ago, The Prussian said: Vol. 12-13: Oberkommando der Wehrmacht Andy, for once you are also wrong. Vol 12 & the 1942 Vol 13 were on behalf of the Oberkommando des Heeres Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Hello Charly! Of course, you´re right; but at 4:30 a.m. I may be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Todd, As Andy has already said the different editions of Vol 13 are the same apart from the maps, which are much clearer in colour. A couple of comparison photos. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Great photos, Charlie! Your books seem to be "unread"! The b/w maps have the same quality as the maps in vol. 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 16:18, The Prussian said: Your books seem to be "unread"! Yes, all my Vol 13 & 14 are in very good condition. The Vol 14 Beilagen are still in their original strap. The OKH Vol 13 came at a price though, you could have bought quite a few photos for the same money. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 You have been very lucky! Are you able to tell me the lottonumbers from next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 28 April , 2021 Share Posted 28 April , 2021 45 minutes ago, The Prussian said: Are you able to tell me the lottonumbers from next week? Sorry no, they have to remain my secret till I have perfected my timemachine. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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