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Albert George Curtis


dntetlow
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Albert's CWGC record is as follows:

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DEATH: CWGC

Name: CURTIS, ALBERT GEORGE

Initials: A G

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment/Service: Wiltshire Regiment

Age: 28

Date of Death: 20/03/1916

Service No: 18556

Additional information: Son of George and Emily Curtis, of Ashton Keynes.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Cemetery: ASHTON KEYNES (HOLY CROSS) CHURCHYARD

Can anyone tell me what battalion he was in and where he enlisted? Many thanks in advance.

David

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David

Albert according to SDITGW enlisted in Devizes, his residence being at Ashton Keynes and he was a Depot staff, some I assume he might not have attached to any particular battalion.

Hope this helps

Malcolm

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Malcolm,

OK, many thanks. As Depot staff, I suspect that he may not have left the UK - which would explain the burial at Ashton Keynes. This looks to be his GRO reference - I'll send off for it.

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DEATH: FreeBMD

Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%)

Curtis Albert G 28 Ipswich 4a 1248

Many thanks for your help.

David

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David,

Almost 100% sure he didnt work for GWR either

Grant

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OK Grant, many thanks for letting me know. Now to send off for the death certificate .....

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Hi dntetlow

1901 census

Curtis George 38 Head Hay Tresser Agricultural Labourer Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade

Curtis Emily 35 Wife Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade

Curtis Albert 13 Son Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade

Curtis Florence 8 Daughter Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade

Curtis Edwin 4 Son Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade

hope this helps

mel

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L/Cpl 6th Wilts , disembarked 19-7-1915, appears in 14-15 star and bwm/victory medal rolls.

interesting, that on same day Curtis E Pte 18571 and Curtis F W Pte 17707 also disembarked.

both of which were retired class z there was also a Curtis T Pte 16021 and Curtis G H Pte 16020 both disembarked 21-9-1915.

infact there were 12 Curtis' all disembarked between 11-12-1914 and 20-10-1915. fair old family shout.(possibly) all Wilts.

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Hi Mel,

Many thanks for the 1901 Census - it ties in with what I already had.

Kind regards

David

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Chaz,

Was this definitely the same man i.e. #18556, L/Cpl Albert George Curtis? The only reason I ask is that he would appear to have died back in the U.K.? I have sent for the death certificate which might help.

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David

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Chaz,

Another question (or two) ..

1) Was the disembarkment at Boulogne which is where the 6th Bn arrived late that night?

2) What does retired class z mean?

There are lots of Curtis' in the Leigh area near Cricklade!

Kind regards

David

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Chaz / David

Evening all, one of my lads is another Curtis ( Purtonis next to Cricklade for those who didn`t know )

E.CURTIS

22755 Private EDWARD FRANK CURTIS

6th Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.

killed in action aged 21 on the 6th July 1916.

Son of Mr. James & Sophia of Station Rd

Buried in HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE, Grave Reference: I. A. 26.

Out of interest what date do you have for his arrival in Europe

Best Regards

Bob

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Im no expert, just have copies of the Wilts regt medal rolls. scant details only have name, initials in star rolls, full names in bwm and vic rolls, regt , date disembarked , the odd note, other regt/reason for discharge and roll number details.

David, ...Albert George is the same 18556 L/Cpl listed as died 20-3-1916 (my sons birthday march 20!) nothing other than that and pages in original roll. as no remarks I would take it that he was overseas and entitled to 14-15 star trio, possibly evacuated back after injury and died at home, pure guess work on the other hand he could well have come home on leave and got in a fight and died as a result fiction...who knows.

Class Z means ...men who signed up or conscripted for war service only, they were transferred at the end of their time ( or end of war) onto National Reserve but obliged to notify authorities incase of change of address.

Bob, .... Edward Frank does not appear in 14-15 star roll and number too high for 14 star roll.

only listed as in BWM & Victory, no star, 6 Wilts, Died of wounds 6-7-1916, no other details. for some reason disembarkation not mentioned on bwm/vic roll only star ones. may be a case of visit to the wardrobe. should be on his records there as Ive had details of one of my great uncles that I didnt have before.

sorry cant help more.

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Chaz,

OK, thanks very much for clarifying re: Albert George Curtis. As you have copies of the medal rolls could I trouble you to let me know what medals the following qualified for, disembarkation date, etc? It would be much appreciated - I'm doing a similar exercise to Bob and am busy researching the lads on Cricklade War Memorial:

Name: Lionel Walter Coole

Rank: Private

Service No: 10036

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 1st Bn.

Name: James Edgar Cowley

Rank: Corporal

Service No: 204633

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 1st Bn.

Name: Ernest John Curtis

Rank: Private

Service No: 18235

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 5th Bn.

Name: Charles Howse

Rank: Private

Service No: 25521

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 7th Bn.

Name: William Poole

Rank: Private

Service No: 8780

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 7th Bn.

Name: David Woodward

Rank: Private

Service No: 9689

Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment

Unit: 5th Bn.

Many thanks for your help.

Kind regards

David

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Chaz,

Could I also sneek in here with a

George Albert (or Albert George) Burt, 2nd Battalion, The Wilshire Regiment

Thanks, Patrick

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Name: Lionel Walter Coole

Disembarked:... 28-11-1914

notes:...KiA 11.12.1914

Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict

Name: James Edgar Cowley

Disembarked:... 4-12-1915

notes:...KiA 26.4.1918, 1/1 Royal Wilts Yeomanry, 1019 Cpl,

Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict (entitled to BWM & Vic through service in 4TF Bn)

Name: Ernest John Curtis

Disembarked:... 19-7-1915

notes:...died 29.11.1915, only listed as E or Ernest

Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict

Name: Charles Howse

Disembarked:... no date

notes:...Died 24-4-1917

Medals:... only listed in roll for BWM & Vict so after 1915 embarkation

Name: William Poole

Disembarked:... 7-10-1914 2nd Btn

notes:...KiA 24.4.1917 date of death given as 24/25.4.1917

Medals:... 14 star, BWM & Vict

Name: David Woodward

Disembarked:... 30-6-1915

notes:...DoW 15.8.1915

Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict

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Pat

George Albert (or Albert George) Burt, 2nd Battalion, The Wilshire Regiment

presumably Pte 7555 George Albert

Disembarked:... 7-10-1914

notes:...Killed 25.9.1915

Medals:... 14 star, BWM & Vict

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That's him , thanks. Seems he was baptised Albert George though. Thanks again.

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Chaz,

Many thanks for these - brilliant!

Another question .... sorry ...

It looks like William Poole served first in the 2nd Bn before transferring to the 7th Bn. Do you know whether William Poole had a clasp to his 1914 star?

Kind regards

David

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Chaz / David

Not wanting to dilute the origional purpose of this thread but

Arthur G Curtis Royal engineers

Bertie Curtis 5th Wilts

James Curtis 5th Wilts

All Purton survivors

Will have to try & get an ancestry lookup to see if any of these are related closely or otherwise

Bob

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William Poole shown as disembarked 7-10-1914 2nd btn. not listed as being with 7th btn.

star criteria awarded for campaign service in France or Belgium between 5th August and 22nd November.

Clasp awarded only to those who served within range of the enemy's mobile artillery.

Wardrobe lists as landed at Zeebruge in the morning and were billeted south East of Bruge later in the day.

on 20th November they had been in the trenches 3 days , prior to that on the 9th November they were entrenched and lost 2 killed and 4 wounded.

its a possibility that he would have been in the trenches under fire by then as a month would have passed since disembarking. as for his date of death it seems the 2nd btn were not under much fire on the day as the Germans didnt seem to know their positions, there were a few casualties during a barrage , maybe he was one of those.

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David,

bertie number 11607 if Bertie William Curtis Private 5th Wilts class Z 8-3-1919.

james number 23611 only James Curtis Private no longer fit 23-5-1918.

fair few numbers apart but suppose they could still be related, the bwm & vic rolls list 36 Curtis' in the Wilts one may have an extra entry as Walter was corrected from Thomas

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