dntetlow Posted 28 February , 2008 Share Posted 28 February , 2008 Albert's CWGC record is as follows: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEATH: CWGC Name: CURTIS, ALBERT GEORGE Initials: A G Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Wiltshire Regiment Age: 28 Date of Death: 20/03/1916 Service No: 18556 Additional information: Son of George and Emily Curtis, of Ashton Keynes. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Cemetery: ASHTON KEYNES (HOLY CROSS) CHURCHYARD Can anyone tell me what battalion he was in and where he enlisted? Many thanks in advance. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Linham Posted 28 February , 2008 Share Posted 28 February , 2008 David Albert according to SDITGW enlisted in Devizes, his residence being at Ashton Keynes and he was a Depot staff, some I assume he might not have attached to any particular battalion. Hope this helps Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 28 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 28 February , 2008 Malcolm, OK, many thanks. As Depot staff, I suspect that he may not have left the UK - which would explain the burial at Ashton Keynes. This looks to be his GRO reference - I'll send off for it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEATH: FreeBMD Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%) Curtis Albert G 28 Ipswich 4a 1248 Many thanks for your help. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 28 February , 2008 Share Posted 28 February , 2008 David, Almost 100% sure he didnt work for GWR either Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 OK Grant, many thanks for letting me know. Now to send off for the death certificate ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Hi dntetlow 1901 census Curtis George 38 Head Hay Tresser Agricultural Labourer Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade Curtis Emily 35 Wife Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade Curtis Albert 13 Son Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade Curtis Florence 8 Daughter Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade Curtis Edwin 4 Son Leigh, Wiltshire Swan Lane, Cricklade hope this helps mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 L/Cpl 6th Wilts , disembarked 19-7-1915, appears in 14-15 star and bwm/victory medal rolls. interesting, that on same day Curtis E Pte 18571 and Curtis F W Pte 17707 also disembarked. both of which were retired class z there was also a Curtis T Pte 16021 and Curtis G H Pte 16020 both disembarked 21-9-1915. infact there were 12 Curtis' all disembarked between 11-12-1914 and 20-10-1915. fair old family shout.(possibly) all Wilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Hi Mel, Many thanks for the 1901 Census - it ties in with what I already had. Kind regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Chaz, Was this definitely the same man i.e. #18556, L/Cpl Albert George Curtis? The only reason I ask is that he would appear to have died back in the U.K.? I have sent for the death certificate which might help. Kind regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 29 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Chaz, Another question (or two) .. 1) Was the disembarkment at Boulogne which is where the 6th Bn arrived late that night? 2) What does retired class z mean? There are lots of Curtis' in the Leigh area near Cricklade! Kind regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts1970 Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Chaz / David Evening all, one of my lads is another Curtis ( Purtonis next to Cricklade for those who didn`t know ) E.CURTIS 22755 Private EDWARD FRANK CURTIS 6th Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment. killed in action aged 21 on the 6th July 1916. Son of Mr. James & Sophia of Station Rd Buried in HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE, Grave Reference: I. A. 26. Out of interest what date do you have for his arrival in Europe Best Regards Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 29 February , 2008 Share Posted 29 February , 2008 Im no expert, just have copies of the Wilts regt medal rolls. scant details only have name, initials in star rolls, full names in bwm and vic rolls, regt , date disembarked , the odd note, other regt/reason for discharge and roll number details. David, ...Albert George is the same 18556 L/Cpl listed as died 20-3-1916 (my sons birthday march 20!) nothing other than that and pages in original roll. as no remarks I would take it that he was overseas and entitled to 14-15 star trio, possibly evacuated back after injury and died at home, pure guess work on the other hand he could well have come home on leave and got in a fight and died as a result fiction...who knows. Class Z means ...men who signed up or conscripted for war service only, they were transferred at the end of their time ( or end of war) onto National Reserve but obliged to notify authorities incase of change of address. Bob, .... Edward Frank does not appear in 14-15 star roll and number too high for 14 star roll. only listed as in BWM & Victory, no star, 6 Wilts, Died of wounds 6-7-1916, no other details. for some reason disembarkation not mentioned on bwm/vic roll only star ones. may be a case of visit to the wardrobe. should be on his records there as Ive had details of one of my great uncles that I didnt have before. sorry cant help more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 1 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Chaz, OK, thanks very much for clarifying re: Albert George Curtis. As you have copies of the medal rolls could I trouble you to let me know what medals the following qualified for, disembarkation date, etc? It would be much appreciated - I'm doing a similar exercise to Bob and am busy researching the lads on Cricklade War Memorial: Name: Lionel Walter Coole Rank: Private Service No: 10036 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 1st Bn. Name: James Edgar Cowley Rank: Corporal Service No: 204633 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 1st Bn. Name: Ernest John Curtis Rank: Private Service No: 18235 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 5th Bn. Name: Charles Howse Rank: Private Service No: 25521 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 7th Bn. Name: William Poole Rank: Private Service No: 8780 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 7th Bn. Name: David Woodward Rank: Private Service No: 9689 Regiment: Wiltshire Regiment Unit: 5th Bn. Many thanks for your help. Kind regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick ODwyer Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Chaz, Could I also sneek in here with a George Albert (or Albert George) Burt, 2nd Battalion, The Wilshire Regiment Thanks, Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Name: Lionel Walter Coole Disembarked:... 28-11-1914 notes:...KiA 11.12.1914 Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict Name: James Edgar Cowley Disembarked:... 4-12-1915 notes:...KiA 26.4.1918, 1/1 Royal Wilts Yeomanry, 1019 Cpl, Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict (entitled to BWM & Vic through service in 4TF Bn) Name: Ernest John Curtis Disembarked:... 19-7-1915 notes:...died 29.11.1915, only listed as E or Ernest Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict Name: Charles Howse Disembarked:... no date notes:...Died 24-4-1917 Medals:... only listed in roll for BWM & Vict so after 1915 embarkation Name: William Poole Disembarked:... 7-10-1914 2nd Btn notes:...KiA 24.4.1917 date of death given as 24/25.4.1917 Medals:... 14 star, BWM & Vict Name: David Woodward Disembarked:... 30-6-1915 notes:...DoW 15.8.1915 Medals:... 14-15 star, BWM & Vict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Pat George Albert (or Albert George) Burt, 2nd Battalion, The Wilshire Regiment presumably Pte 7555 George Albert Disembarked:... 7-10-1914 notes:...Killed 25.9.1915 Medals:... 14 star, BWM & Vict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick ODwyer Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 That's him , thanks. Seems he was baptised Albert George though. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntetlow Posted 1 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Chaz, Many thanks for these - brilliant! Another question .... sorry ... It looks like William Poole served first in the 2nd Bn before transferring to the 7th Bn. Do you know whether William Poole had a clasp to his 1914 star? Kind regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts1970 Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 Chaz / David Not wanting to dilute the origional purpose of this thread but Arthur G Curtis Royal engineers Bertie Curtis 5th Wilts James Curtis 5th Wilts All Purton survivors Will have to try & get an ancestry lookup to see if any of these are related closely or otherwise Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 William Poole shown as disembarked 7-10-1914 2nd btn. not listed as being with 7th btn. star criteria awarded for campaign service in France or Belgium between 5th August and 22nd November. Clasp awarded only to those who served within range of the enemy's mobile artillery. Wardrobe lists as landed at Zeebruge in the morning and were billeted south East of Bruge later in the day. on 20th November they had been in the trenches 3 days , prior to that on the 9th November they were entrenched and lost 2 killed and 4 wounded. its a possibility that he would have been in the trenches under fire by then as a month would have passed since disembarking. as for his date of death it seems the 2nd btn were not under much fire on the day as the Germans didnt seem to know their positions, there were a few casualties during a barrage , maybe he was one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 1 March , 2008 Share Posted 1 March , 2008 David, bertie number 11607 if Bertie William Curtis Private 5th Wilts class Z 8-3-1919. james number 23611 only James Curtis Private no longer fit 23-5-1918. fair few numbers apart but suppose they could still be related, the bwm & vic rolls list 36 Curtis' in the Wilts one may have an extra entry as Walter was corrected from Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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