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Was the Tank Corps part of the Infantry or Artillery?

If so does that make any difference in searching for records at the NA?

Neil

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Neil,

The Tank Corps was a Corps in its own right and it is one component of the Teeth Arms within the Army (dealing with the Army as a concept, not a formation).

'Teeth' Arms or Arms (those that engage with the enemy and destroy them):

Infantry, Artillery, Cavalry, Tank Corps, et al

'Support' Arms or Services:

ASC, AOC, RAMC, et al.

In the 1980's it would be Arms such as the following:

Teeth Arms - Infantry, Cavalry, Tanks, (Fighting)*

Support Arms - Royal Artillery, Royal Engineers, Royal Signals (Supporting the fighting)*

Service Support Arms - REME, RAOC, RCT, et al (Sustaining the fighting with logistical support)*

* Lists are not exhaustive, purely done to give you the idea.

Within the Tank Corps there would be men from all of the Arms and Services as it was a new Corps. Is you man in 'D' or 'E' battalions or '4' or '5' battalions? If so, I might be able to help you.

Aye

Tom McC

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Neil - many of the first tankees had previously served with other units (MGC, MMGS . ASC even the RNAS)

If you are checking the "ancestry" records you may find that it is worth searching for them using their original service number

Stephen

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Thanks Guys

Stephen, I got this info from an earlier query.

The first man seems to have been in the Gloucester Regiment, attached to the Tank Corps, if that makes sense:

The Times, Thursday, Jul 18, 1918

KILLED

BERRY, Lt. J. L., Glouc. R., attd.

Tank Corps.

regards,

Martin

So i have no service number. (or membership of ancestry :))

National Archives online search doesn't mention any previous service, only Tank Corps.

Tom, CWGC has him as part of 13th Btn. He was KIA 04/07/1918. He gets a mention in Arbroath ROH, but other than that I've been unable to discover any more about him.

Neil

PS Carnoustie War Memorial has him as Black Watch :unsure:

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Neil,

Have you looked in Arbroath Library through the microfiche of the Arbroath Herald, as this may have a small obituary/eulogy?

Aye

Tom McC

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NOt yet Tom, but I think thats probably where this entry in Arbroath ROH comes from.

Lieutenant J. Leslie Berry, Tank Corps, 5 Briarwood Terrace, Dundee, was the second son of the Rev. J.B.Berry, at one time minister of the U.F.Church, Colliston. Before joining the army he was employed with Messrs George Rollo & Co., Panmure Street, Dundee. Lieut Berry was KIA in 1918.

Neil

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Neil,

He is in Wauchope 4th Black Watch. Berry J L 2nd Lieut. Joined 9th Oct 1915. Transfered to 13th Bn Glosters, 25 Aug 1916. He is in the Dundee ROH as BW no further details.

Tom

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Thanks Tom, nice one, that clears up a mystery. So it seems he was in 13th Glosters, not 13th Tank Corps.

Neil

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Thanks Tom, nice one, that clears up a mystery. So it seems he was in 13th Glosters, not 13th Tank Corps.

Neil

Looks like it. He was only attached to the Tank Corps. Bit like footballers, on loan to another club. But a bit more serious.

Tom

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Those officers intially commissioned into a regiment were generally attached to the Tank Corps (or its predecessor the Heavy section of the MGC); some retained their original capbadge (e.g. Inglis) whilst others rebadged (e,g Hastie). Officers attacehd to the RFC seemed to have been similar.

The Tank Corps Book of Honour shows Berry as a native of Carnoustie; that he is shown as being in 13th Bn Tank Corps would certainly link to his date of death; the 13th were heavily in action on 4th July 1918 at Corbie

Stephen

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Those officers intially commissioned into a regiment were generally attached to the Tank Corps (or its predecessor the Heavy section of the MGC); some retained their original capbadge (e.g. Inglis) whilst others rebadged (e,g Hastie). Officers attacehd to the RFC seemed to have been similar.

The Tank Corps Book of Honour shows Berry as a native of Carnoustie; that he is shown as being in 13th Bn Tank Corps would certainly link to his date of death; the 13th were heavily in action on 4th July 1918 at Corbie

Stephen

Thanks Stephen, so 13th Glosters and 13th Tank Corps seems to be a coincidence. Does his entry have any more details?

Neil

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